Can't Load .GRF File Doesn't Read It

maley123 · Post by **maley123** » 29 Nov 2005 19:13

My computer doesn't read my grf file it uses paint and i can't change it back to unknown

GoneWacko · Post by **GoneWacko** » 29 Nov 2005 19:38

Fascinating.

Cctoide · Post by **Cctoide** » 29 Nov 2005 19:42

I have to agree with GoneWacko there. That is simply amazing.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 29 Nov 2005 19:46

I'm still unable to determine how this is a problem with TTDPatch. A problem with the registry, maybe, but not TTDPatch.

But maybe I'm just being dense.

Bastiaan · Post by **Bastiaan** » 29 Nov 2005 20:34

maley123 wrote:My computer doesn't read my grf file it uses paint and i can't change it back to unknown

If you tell us more exactly what you did, maybe someone could help you.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 29 Nov 2005 20:45

If you're trying to open the .grf file in Paint, you're going about it the wrong way. That's not possible. If you're trying to open the .grf in anything but grfcodec, you're also going about it the wrong way. The only programs that understand grf files are TTDPatch and grfcodec.

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 29 Nov 2005 21:16

*searches through emoticons*

*doesn't find specified*

You numb-skull!
My, my, my, what a basket full we have here. I've seen stupid, but this, this is downright Dumb!

jonty-comp · Post by **jonty-comp** » 29 Nov 2005 21:32

maley123 the idiot wrote:i can't change it back to unknown

What

What's 'unknown'? You can't change it back to unknown... well, you shouldn't have changed it from unknown then should you?

Wait, wait, I think I know what he means...
A GRF file is unrecognised in the Windows MIME database (file extensions) so it would have the .grf on the end. maley123 renamed it to .pcx or .bmp in the hope that it would open in Paint, but it wouldn't, and now he can't change it back to .grf because the file extension's disappeared. Well that's his fault then.

did anyone notice what i did in the 'quote' title.. hehehe! *jonty giggles manically*

Post by **PikkaBird** » 30 Nov 2005 00:40

jonty-comp wrote:did anyone notice what i did in the 'quote' title.. hehehe! *jonty giggles manically*

You, sir, are a regular Oscar Wilde and no mistake.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 30 Nov 2005 00:42

Pikka, please be more careful. I got sarcasm all over my shirt now.

Flamelord · Post by **Flamelord** » 30 Nov 2005 01:18

I imagine it was more a case of "What in the world can I open this with?", followed by his thinking that all GRFs are are series of images, that the game automatically knows what to do with, then trying to specify Paint as the program it opens with, and stupidly leaving the box checked to say that he ALWAYS wanted to open them with that. Silly, silly boy. Should never check that little box.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 30 Nov 2005 17:13

jonty-comp, I don't think he knows extensions. Flamelord is right, I guess. So, maley123, you have to do following:
Open My Computer. Open Tools -> Folder Options... menu. Open File Types card. In Registered file types find GRF extension. Click on it and click Delete. That will (probably) solve your problem.
And people, please don't laugh on somebody's stupidity. Everybody makes stupid things.
EDIT: And yes, use GRF Wizard with GRF codec. It's more easier to work with GUI than with command line.

SpComb · Post by **SpComb** » 30 Nov 2005 19:55

Yeah, everyone makes stupid mistakes.
But normally, people learn from them.
That process, if it is takeing place here, is rather slow.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 01 Dec 2005 12:47

If he choose harder way, that's his choice.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 01 Dec 2005 17:09

Wile E. Coyote wrote:It's more easier to work with GUI than with command line.

I have to disagree.
To decode, for example 4LongVehiclesw.grf, I type
decode 4Lo<tab><enter>

Re-encoding is the same, except that I start the line with "encode" instead. I do have to type the full filename the first time I encode, though.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 01 Dec 2005 17:58

I mean for newbie like him

The Person · Post by **The Person** » 01 Dec 2005 19:00

Wile E. Coyote wrote:I mean for newbie like him

Not really related to command line, but I had no problems editing the cfgs manually when I found out about them (which I did on my own). Then of course I'm the neighbourhood computer geek.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 01 Dec 2005 20:45

OK people, let's be less sarcastic and help him to understand some things.
You can't edit GRF files directly with any painting program. You must decode GRF file first with GRF codec. Make in your TTDpatch folder new subfolder and name it "sprites". When you decode GRF, you obtain NFO (code) and PCX (picture) files in "sprites" folder. Convert PCX file to PNG or BMP (with photoeditor or other program which can handle these picture formats. i.Mage is good program, you can convert files or work directly with PCX files), edit picture, convert it to PCX (if you worked with other format), and then encode GRF. For beginning, don't touch NFO file.
And remember again: don't try to open GRF with any other program except GRF codec!
Hope that helps. If something is not clear, don't hesitate to ask in this topic, but be more detailed, so people could help you.

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