Temperate trains in the desert???
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Temperate trains in the desert???
Is it possible to use the temperate trains in the desert setting?
If so, how?
If not is it possible to make a patch that does this?
If so, how?
If not is it possible to make a patch that does this?
Yes.
Create a GRF file that does the job.
... assuming OTTD has support for at least action 0 feature 00 prop 06. I think action 7 variable 83 is required too.
Create a GRF file that does the job.
... assuming OTTD has support for at least action 0 feature 00 prop 06. I think action 7 variable 83 is required too.
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Just another way of saying 'f*** off newbie'DaleStan wrote:Yes.
Create a GRF file that does the job.
... assuming OTTD has support for at least action 0 feature 00 prop 06. I think action 7 variable 83 is required too.

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I've just checked. All that you've mentionned is supported.DaleStan wrote: ... assuming OTTD has support for at least action 0 feature 00 prop 06. I think action 7 variable 83 is required too.
If you are not ready to work a bit for your ideas, it means they don't count much for you.
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Or simpler - make a switchable patch of train_cmd.c (or other file) from the source, that is available. 

NewGRF: Oil Wells in Temperate terrain now can Increase production, Better vehicle names, Use-able default aircraft, Oil Rig for Snowland and Desert, Speed for Suspension bridges.
Patches (OpenTTD): Improved smooth_economy [in trunk], More (diesel) smoke [in trunk], Realistic_acceleration finetune.
Keep 'em rollin'!
Patches (OpenTTD): Improved smooth_economy [in trunk], More (diesel) smoke [in trunk], Realistic_acceleration finetune.
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Or you could get that file...
It contains a grf that convert ALL trains and wagons to Temperate and Desert ones.
I know it is stupid to do so, and prone to strange behaviour.
But it is a start for you to know how to code Grf, which is the only EASY way to do what you want. AS Dalestan suggested, get yourself the newgrf documentation, find out what train you want to convert PRECISELY, change it and enjoy
It is not THAT bad to learn.

It contains a grf that convert ALL trains and wagons to Temperate and Desert ones.
I know it is stupid to do so, and prone to strange behaviour.
But it is a start for you to know how to code Grf, which is the only EASY way to do what you want. AS Dalestan suggested, get yourself the newgrf documentation, find out what train you want to convert PRECISELY, change it and enjoy

It is not THAT bad to learn.

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- AllTrainInTemperate_Desert.zip
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Well, I thought I was in the TTDP section, where a question like that nearly requires malice. (ref: Hanlon's Razor)Bart wrote:Just another way of saying 'f*** off newbie'
I probably should have deleted the post, but instead I decided to remove the TTDPatch related info (newindustries and newcargos comments), and replace it with OTTD-related-info.
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I just tested a different method:
Start a new game with the subtropical climate.
Then press 'Ctrl-C' and switch to the temperate climate.
Save the game.
Quit the game and browse to the savegame folder.
Change the filename extension from *.sav to *.scn .
Now start OpenTTD and load the scenario (you made a scenario from your savegame) using the 'Create Scenario' option from the main menu.
Now save that scenario.
Go back to the main menu and choose 'Play scenario' and open your newly made scenario.
Because the game is still temperate (with snow as dessert) use 'Ctrl-C' to switch to the subtropical climate.
Tadaaaaa now you can play with the temperate trains in the subtropical climate.
Note: This only works with DBset(xl)w.grf using version 0.4.0.1. And then possibly other sets as well, but you can always try. Sorry about the wrong information before (for the second time
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Not so difficult as the other solutions
Regards,
Robin
Edit1: It is playable with DBsetxlw.grf
Edit2: It is playable with DBsetxlw.grf, but only with version 0.4.0.1
Start a new game with the subtropical climate.
Then press 'Ctrl-C' and switch to the temperate climate.
Save the game.
Quit the game and browse to the savegame folder.
Change the filename extension from *.sav to *.scn .
Now start OpenTTD and load the scenario (you made a scenario from your savegame) using the 'Create Scenario' option from the main menu.
Now save that scenario.
Go back to the main menu and choose 'Play scenario' and open your newly made scenario.
Because the game is still temperate (with snow as dessert) use 'Ctrl-C' to switch to the subtropical climate.
Tadaaaaa now you can play with the temperate trains in the subtropical climate.
Note: This only works with DBset(xl)w.grf using version 0.4.0.1. And then possibly other sets as well, but you can always try. Sorry about the wrong information before (for the second time

Not so difficult as the other solutions

Regards,
Robin
Edit1: It is playable with DBsetxlw.grf
Edit2: It is playable with DBsetxlw.grf, but only with version 0.4.0.1
Last edited by Scia on 02 Nov 2005 16:26, edited 2 times in total.
rats it would be even easier if ttd alter could read the open tdd exe
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