[Developing]Finnish Set, Taster Released

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 10 Jul 2004 14:01

Links have been updated: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=173712#173712 . Also 2 new coaches. Also i talked with Purno, and we came to the conclusion that there are to few wagons avaible to draw, and more would be hard to find, and many people want to use the cargo-set or eny other set that features new wagons. So the Set Will only Feature Locomotives & Coaches. Also that way people who want to play with Ai won't be screwed over, and there will not be complications when coding wagons, wich reduces work-load. Note:The Intercity coaches are practically purno's, i only recolored the eifet march wagon he drew)

Petaja · Post by **Petaja** » 10 Jul 2004 15:05

OK folks!

Here's very useful links to the train simulation page; http://olli.keski-rahkonen.com/makasiin ... locos.html Those are 3D animations of real trains.

I think that whole site is a jackpot to the drawing artists; http://olli.keski-rahkonen.com/makasiin ... index.html

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 10 Jul 2004 15:57

Petaja wrote:OK folks!

Here's very useful links to the train simulation page; http://olli.keski-rahkonen.com/makasiin ... locos.html Those are 3D animations of real trains.

I think that whole site is a jackpot to the drawing artists; http://olli.keski-rahkonen.com/makasiin ... index.html

First link says that SM-1 would be SM-2, when it is a SM-1

. i also noticed we only had a 1st class coach for the VR-Coach, so i recolored it to be the normal one to.

Petaja · Post by **Petaja** » 11 Jul 2004 15:54

Actually the coach with the red stripes is a restaurant van.
There's no big differences between I and II class coaches by outside.
Smoking places are located to the coaches near restaurant, but by outside you can't tell wich one is the coach with the smoking closet.

About those SM 1 and 2 I can't tell more about, but I quess theres possibility that page maker has done the error.
I'm not sure, but I think that SM 1 is a same train that SM 2, but SM 2 is repainted and also fixed by inside...

Jpl · Post by **Jpl** » 12 Jul 2004 23:54

I suggest which types a Finnish trainset should have, years of availability and type:

1920-1970 Hv2, steam
1924-1965 Pr1, steam
1927-1960 Ds1, dmu
1927-1965 Tk3, steam
1935-1965 Dm1 (or Bm2 in 1938), dmu
1937-1967 Pr2, steam
1939-1969 Hr1, steam
1940-1969 Tr1, steam
1952-1972 Dm4, dmu
1953-1965 Vv12, diesel
1955-1980 Dm7, dmu
1955-1975 Hr11, diesel
1959-1985 Dr12, diesel
1963-2000 Dr13, diesel
1964-1990 Dm8, dmu
1964-1990 Dv12, diesel
1968-1990 Sm1 (Electrification started), emu - can carry mail
1970-1980 DmG7, freight dmu (interesting idea!)
1973-1998 Sr1, electric
1975-2000 Sm2, emu
1980-1996 Sv1, electric
1985-2005 Dr16, diesel
1994-2014 Sm3 (High speed train), emu
1995-2018 Sr2, electric
1998-2020 Sm4, emu
2002-2012 Dm12 (if needed), dmu
2004-2034 Sm5 (Talgo 22, maybe monorail?), emu

passenger wagons:
1920-1970 wooden passenger cars, local and distant
1952-1972 trailers for Dm4/Hr11
1955-1980 trailers for Dm7
1962-2002 "blue" fast train cars
1964-1990 middle wagon for Dm8
1982-2030 local traffic Eil/Eilf
1992-2030 intercity
1998-2030 intercity2, doubledeckers

freight wagons:
1920-1970 wooden mail wagon
1920-1970 type Gb box wagon
1970-1990 type Gbl box wagon
1962-2002 mail wagon used with fast trains
1970-1980 mail trailer for DmG7
1970-2030 type Soek oil wagon
1980-2030 type Sp wood carrying wagon
1990-2030 type Gbln box wagon

As a guide, i've got a list of all trains used in Finland

http://jpl.yi.org/vr_trains.php

Wanting also a "what is done" table, eh?

PS. The official writing format of a vechile type is eg. Sm1, NOT SM-1, SM1 or something other...

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 13 Jul 2004 04:38

can any one do the tender for the Hr1

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 13 Jul 2004 11:18

Jpl wrote:I suggest which types a Finnish trainset should have, years of availability and type:

1920-1970 Hv2, steam
1924-1965 Pr1, steam
1927-1965 Tk3, steam
1939-1969 Hr1, steam
1952-1972 Dm4, dmu
1953-1965 Vv12, diesel
1955-1980 Dm7, dmu
1955-1975 Hr11, diesel
1959-1985 Dr12, diesel
1963-2000 Dr13, diesel
1964-1990 Dm8, dmu
1964-1990 Dv12, diesel
1968-2010 Sm1 (Electrification started), emu - can carry mail
1970-1980 DmG7, freight dmu (interesting idea!)
1973-2010 Sr1, electric
1975-2020 Sm2, emu
1980-1996 Sv1, electric
1985-2005 Dr16, diesel
1994-2014 Sm3 (High speed train), emu
1995-2018 Sr2, electric
1998-2020 Sm4, emu
2002-2012 Dm12 (if needed), dmu

passenger wagons:
1920-1970 wooden passenger cars, local and distant
1952-1972 trailers for Dm4/Hr11
1955-1980 trailers for Dm7
1962-2002 "blue" fast train cars
1964-1990 middle wagon for Dm8
1982-2030 local traffic Eil/Eilf
1992-2030 intercity
1998-2030 intercity2, doubledeckers

As a guide, i've got a list of all trains used in Finland http://jpl.yi.org/vr_trains.php

Wanting also a "what is done" table, eh?

PS. The official writing format of a vechile type is eg. Sm1, NOT SM-1, SM1 or something other...

I call it a SM-1, also The Set Will not feature Freight Wagons, and look the the third page, it got a table what needs to be done and what is done, and the set will not feature vehicles after 2005(Dm-12 is a expection). The quote above contains what will apperear in the set(i will add what isnt already in the third page of thread list). The Freight Wagons will simply come later & as optional addon. [edit] the list in 3rd page is updated once again http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=173712#173712

Jpl · Post by **Jpl** » 14 Jul 2004 13:14

I have made a trainset: Hr11, Dm4 then wagons KCik, KEis and KEi

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 14 Jul 2004 13:21

Jpl wrote:I have made a trainset: Hr11, Dm4 then wagons KCik, KEis and KEi

They look very good, especially the roofs, but there are some errors:

You must see the roof in _ views. The roof normally is 4 pixels in height.
You didn't draw any backlights
The shading in the roof in \ and | views is wrong. In TTD light comes from the rights. You can't just mirror / and \ views, unfortunately
No shading effects: The left side should be somewhat darker than the right side in / and \ views.

But they look really good!

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 14 Jul 2004 13:41

also, both _ views should be same..

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jul 2004 07:50

I wanna draw the SM4, I looked for a good picture, I found it (see below). But, it's too long for a railbus, but I can't see that it are 2 coaches. What is it? Does anyone has a good sideview of this SM4. It seems like one thing, but it's too long for that.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 15 Jul 2004 09:14

SM4 is a EMU

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jul 2004 09:37

Akalamanaia wrote:SM4 is a EMU

Yeah I know that, I saw the panto's. But is it 1 or 2 'pieces'. Do you have a clear picture from the side of the middle piece somewhere. I would like to see it more detailed.

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 15 Jul 2004 11:27

In TTD it would be 2 pieces.

Due to it's size. (cut it in half.)

Also I see a small section that looks like a split point on the photo...

(Another SM to code...)

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 15 Jul 2004 11:32

heh, SM1, SM2,SM3,SM4...all EMU's

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jul 2004 11:52

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 15 Jul 2004 12:42

AndrewA wrote:
krtaylor wrote:I couldn't resist asking if you had any idea when this set was likely to Finnish.

i wonder how many more times someone'll ask that before we finnish it. Oh well, i suppose it is quite funny

Hmmmm have you forgot the Pendolino you started?(SM3). And Singaporekid you could draw atleast somekind of Tender for The HR1 so somekind tender will be avaible if someone wants to code it. Also heres pic for the Tank engine, shows all the wheels clearly: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fi/ste ... ank-jp.jpg

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jul 2004 14:00

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 15 Jul 2004 14:49

List What Is Done & What Isn't Has been updated once again, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=173712#173712

Petaja · Post by **Petaja** » 15 Jul 2004 14:55

OK, heres very good site for those who like to draw: http://vaunut.org/indkuv.php

One train seems to be forgotten. DM8&9 from '70's

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