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See http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=386100#p386100Dave Worley wrote:What I was thinking was offering each MU just as the lead carriage, and then buying carriages on top (with the unit's original price being altered, obviously) with auto livery overrides to get the desired effect. I was just wondering if I could cause said carriages to behave like the carriages of a DMU (powered, etc).
Thank you for that, Michael, poses some interesting solutions indeed.michael blunck wrote:See http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=386100#p386100Dave Worley wrote:What I was thinking was offering each MU just as the lead carriage, and then buying carriages on top (with the unit's original price being altered, obviously) with auto livery overrides to get the desired effect. I was just wondering if I could cause said carriages to behave like the carriages of a DMU (powered, etc).
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Michael
There are more "MU-related" posts, which may be helpful: see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=36105Dave Worley wrote:Your input is very much appreciated, as ever
Some are, some are not, see:And as an aside, is manual refitting of engines able to change the stats/attributes of said engine yet? I seem to remember it was in the pipeline?
Consecutive wagons aren´t (livery) changed by just refitting the engine (somehow). O/c, this is perfectly doable by some more "exotic" approach.I'd also require the rest of train to refit if refitting the lead carriage [...] seems I might be forcing an override of the livery override system, which doesn't sound too healthy.
No. The second head of a dual-headed unit is the same ID as the first. The historically typical way to do steam locomotive tenders is to use one seperate ID for all tenders, but it's possible (and, theoretically, tidier) to use the same ID as the locomotive for the tender, and then use a var action 2 to decide what is a loco and what is a tender.Dave Worley wrote:Tenders and second cars of units count as an extra ID, yes?
You cannot refit a vehicle that carries no cargo; this is why I had to create the "gearing" cargo for NARS.And as an aside, is manual refitting of engines able to change the stats/attributes of said engine yet? I seem to remember it was in the pipeline?
A livery override action 3 doesn't have to point straight to a real sprite set; it can have a var2 chain all of its own. In this case, you'd just check 82 F2 to get the livery of the lead locomotive, and then set the car graphics accordingly.Dave Worley wrote:EDIT: Thinking about this, I'd also require the rest of train to refit if refitting the lead carriage - example: say I have a 150. I build the 150 and another carriage for it. I then go to the refit window and tell it to refit to (hypothetically) a Northern liveried train, would the carriage change too, it seems I might be forcing an override of the livery override system, which doesn't sound too healthy.
I would assume it's then possible to design custom tenders for each loco and not have the same one?PikkaBird wrote:No. The second head of a dual-headed unit is the same ID as the first. The historically typical way to do steam locomotive tenders is to use one seperate ID for all tenders, but it's possible (and, theoretically, tidier) to use the same ID as the locomotive for the tender, and then use a var action 2 to decide what is a loco and what is a tender.Dave Worley wrote:Tenders and second cars of units count as an extra ID, yes?
I take it this is accepted nowhere, then; is there a .grf with this behaviour released or is it all in the pipeline?You cannot refit a vehicle that carries no cargo; this is why I had to create the "gearing" cargo for NARS.And as an aside, is manual refitting of engines able to change the stats/attributes of said engine yet? I seem to remember it was in the pipeline?
That's what I like to hear - do you have your own example of this (say in the UKRS?), etc.A livery override action 3 doesn't have to point straight to a real sprite set; it can have a var2 chain all of its own. In this case, you'd just check 82 F2 to get the livery of the lead locomotive, and then set the car graphics accordingly.Dave Worley wrote:EDIT: Thinking about this, I'd also require the rest of train to refit if refitting the lead carriage - example: say I have a 150. I build the 150 and another carriage for it. I then go to the refit window and tell it to refit to (hypothetically) a Northern liveried train, would the carriage change too, it seems I might be forcing an override of the livery override system, which doesn't sound too healthy.
Of course. If you're using a seperate ID for the tender, you can use a livery override on the tender to get the appropriate graphics. If you're using an articulate with two parts of the same ID, you just pick the appropriate graphics based on position.Dave Worley wrote:I would assume it's then possible to design custom tenders for each loco and not have the same one?
That is correct, it's a cargo that's not produced or accepted by any industries. Still in the pipeline, but getting closer!I take it this is accepted nowhere, then; is there a .grf with this behaviour released or is it all in the pipeline?
There are examples of complex overrides in the UKRS; the 91, for example, has a livery override for the mail van, which points to an action 2 chain that selects between a normal mail van, the DVT, or the reversed locomotive.That's what I like to hear - do you have your own example of this (say in the UKRS?), etc.
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