New Graphics - Blender ".blend" thread (Works In Progress)

shampie · Post by **shampie** » 28 Aug 2005 16:20

I cant get the hold of the blender program, not enough time to learn it and I am little more visual learning than the manual gives me.
However I know sufficient about Swift 3D to attempt to make something in there I can export files as .t3d
Please advise.

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 28 Aug 2005 17:30

I am little more visual learning than the manual gives me.

from http://www.blender.org http://www.blender.org/cms/Video_Tutorials.396.0.html

those are the video tutorials that will help you learn.

i have heard of swift3d but is that not designed more for SWF export stuff?

you can use any software you like but it should be exportable to a format that blender can handle importing.

Alltaken

Arldon · Post by **Arldon** » 28 Aug 2005 18:36

Who recognize it?

I've made it with Sketchup, and made the rendering with blender. It works well, except with the colors (especially when a texture is applied). I'm new with blender, and I could see where the problem is for the ground's color (the settings in the material colors seem OK). Can anyone help me (the .blend file is attached)?

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 28 Aug 2005 18:56

i recognise it.

ok, small things to do. add some kind of things to the roof. perhaps vent areas, a lift shaft housing....

also the scale of the building is now out (the original images were to a bad scale, we are doing new scales for new graphics)

your windows are about 3 meters wide (each) and about 6 meters high (each). this is a bit of a problem.....

it is good to base this building off the original but we also need to make it more realistic in the process.

if anyone knows of the real original that the TTD graphics were based on then we would have a good reference to make it more realisitc.

just some general ornamentation.

also (for all building developers)

you will also need to provide the "construction" stages for the building.

i believe each will have 4 or so stages.

first person to make a good crane gets the honor of that one being the official one

(unless we have different cranes for different era's)

Alltaken

Dextro · Post by **Dextro** » 28 Aug 2005 19:04

Alltaken why not ask chris himself?

http://www.chrissawyer.com/feature1a.htm

shampie · Post by **shampie** » 28 Aug 2005 19:08

tnx alltaken, If i get the time i'll try to go through it.

Burschik · Post by **Burschik** » 29 Aug 2005 07:20

MeusH wrote:As a first attemt, is is incredible. I may just suggest what to improve:
-Add more flora to the garden
-Split garage and door. Now, patch from car gate leads to main door. I think you should make one rectangular way from gate to the garage and one, slimmer patch to the main door.

I will add a garage or car port. I do not think I should add more plants until the official trees are ready.

Regards

Burschik

Burschik · Post by **Burschik** » 29 Aug 2005 07:28

I am using the blender setup from the wiki. First of all, my version of blender (2.36 Linux) always crashes when I try to animate. Is this a bug of the setup, or the program?

I find scaling and placing the buildings rather difficult. Would it not be possible to add appropriately scaled and placed tiles to the setup. Perhaps 1x1 to layer one, 2x2 to layer two and 3x3 to layer three?

Furthermore, it might be a good idea to create a library of common objects and textures, such as trees, cars, and concrete, glass or grass textures.

Regards

Burschik

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 29 Aug 2005 08:47

The light setup files were made for blender 1.37a or higher, I think.

Gorre · Post by **Gorre** » 29 Aug 2005 13:41

This is my 'Crane attempt'. Transparency degrades the aerial-rope

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 29 Aug 2005 14:06

Alltaken wrote:[...]
if anyone knows of the real original that the TTD graphics were based on then we would have a good reference to make it more realisitc.
[...]

A photo of the original was posted on the last page...

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 29 Aug 2005 14:22

Korenn wrote:

A photo of the original was posted on the last page...[/quote]

LOL ok, i knew there were reference images, i didn't realise that building had one

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 29 Aug 2005 16:24

G0RR3 wrote:This is my 'Crane attempt'. Transparency degrades the aerial-rope

It's a nice start, but it needs some more detail.

Try making it look more like this (diagonal crossbars, the thing on top, more prominent pivot point).

http://www.sustainability-east.com/asse ... 20site.jpg

MeusH · Post by **MeusH** » 29 Aug 2005 20:59

Cranes go on tracks and are full flexible in movement. They can go forward, backward and rotate. It is important cranes can rotate. Your crane can not. It is fixed to the concerte.

shampie · Post by **shampie** » 29 Aug 2005 23:15

dmh_mac wrote:
G0RR3 wrote:This is my 'Crane attempt'. Transparency degrades the aerial-rope
It's a nice start, but it needs some more detail.

Try making it look more like this (diagonal crossbars, the thing on top, more prominent pivot point).

http://www.sustainability-east.com/asse ... 20site.jpg

Agree, you will need a LOT of contra weights if you dont balance it more to the center.
Your attempt is great! build futher on that one!

P.S All the previous building mentioned, are they going to need to have there construction phases created too? or is it planned to use 'general' construction sites which pops up a building that looks different then what is constructed (sim city style)?

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 30 Aug 2005 00:32

shampie wrote: P.S All the previous building mentioned, are they going to need to have there construction phases created too? or is it planned to use 'general' construction sites which pops up a building that looks different then what is constructed (sim city style)?

Yes they will "All" need construction phases.

however these can be added in later via Grpahics file updates.
and since its an open source game the original artists don't necisarily need to do this (since their source files will be uploaded)

we can have generic building phases to start with, but over time we will expect them to be per-building. so we may as well start now..

I need to create a Graphics Matrix, to display and record which required images are present. since we will have a number.

Day/Night, Building phases, Heliport/no heliport..... (heaps of stuff)

it will be a pretty big admin task, but well worth it IMO.

Alltaken

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 30 Aug 2005 07:58

MeusH wrote:Cranes go on tracks and are full flexible in movement. They can go forward, backward and rotate. It is important cranes can rotate. Your crane can not. It is fixed to the concerte.

This isn't true, a lot of cranes are pinned to concrete slabs since they already have enough leeway through the pivot point and the trolley running in the arm.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 30 Aug 2005 08:12

G0RR3 wrote:This is my 'Crane attempt'. Transparency degrades the aerial-rope

Nice, but I see some useless parts on the crane, which make it somewhat unrealistic.

Gorre · Post by **Gorre** » 30 Aug 2005 10:12

dmh_mac wrote:
G0RR3 wrote:This is my 'Crane attempt'. Transparency degrades the aerial-rope
It's a nice start, but it needs some more detail.

Try making it look more like this (diagonal crossbars, the thing on top, more prominent pivot point).

http://www.sustainability-east.com/asse ... 20site.jpg

Thank you for that photo. Yesterday, I took my field-glasses and looked on our local cranes and got the same feeling that something must be done with the top.

MeusH wrote:Cranes go on tracks and are full flexible in movement. They can go forward, backward and rotate. It is important cranes can rotate. Your crane can not. It is fixed to the concerte.

Well, you are right and wrong, the rotation system is simply too small so you can't see it. I changed it.

EDIT2:

Changed at 14:20 CEST

Fireblast · Post by **Fireblast** » 30 Aug 2005 12:50

Thats great!!!! When the new graphics will be available??

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