[Developing]Finnish Set, Taster Released

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 30 Aug 2004 16:53

Singaporekid_92

I have found servial errors with your tender for the hr1.
You don't keep the propursions the same.

this is the cause of my problems for the tender

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I attached an image to show the size you should be woking it.

It makes some views look too short / some views go through the carrages / wagons that follow it.

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In the mean time, I'll code some sprites that are 6/8 th's of the size, and align them...

See if you can make them that size... (use the red lines for the limits)

Good luck

kemkim · Post by **kemkim** » 31 Aug 2004 12:14

I asked from railway enthusiasts about the years of locomotives, and got numerous fixes to your list. Here is corrected list, which you should use:

Locomotives:
1919-1968 Hv2, steam
1924-1971 Pr1, steam
1927-1975 Tk3, steam
1937-1974 Hr1, steam
1952-1971 Dm4, DMU
1953-1965 Vv12, diesel
1955-1988 Dm7, DMU
1955-1972 Hr11, diesel
1958-2005 Dv15, diesel
1959-1990 Dr12, diese
1969-2020 Dr14, diesel
1962-2007 Dv16, diesel
1962-2000 Dr13, diesel
1964-1987 Dm8, DMU
1965-1990 Dm9, DMU
1963-2020 Dv12, diesel
1969-2014 Sm1 (electrification started), EMU
1970-1980 DmG7, DMU freighter
1973-2023 Sr1, electric
1975-2020 Sm2, EMU
1978-2006 Tve4, diesel
1980-1984 Sv1, electric
1985-2015 Dr16, diesel
1994-2024 Sm3 (high speed train), EMU
1994-1997 DM10, railbus/DMU
1995-2045 Sr2, electric
1999-2038 Sm4, EMU
2005-2030 Dm12, DMU

Passenger wagons:
1862-1990 wooden passenger coaches, local and distant traffic
1954-1970 trailer Dm4/Hr11
1955-1988 trailer Dm7
1961-2012 "blue" express trains
1964-1987 medium wagon for Dm8
1964-1990 medium wagon for Dm9
1982-2030 local traffic Eil/Eilf
1988-2030 InterCity
1998-2030 InterCity2, doubledeckers

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 31 Aug 2004 12:27

"You Should use" *KKHM* you got some nerve there, and the dates are staying as they were before, not changing them because of few enthusiasts cause i got these stats from one.

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 31 Aug 2004 12:56

I will not be working on this set anymore because I have lost inspiration for drawing finnish steamers and also because the project leader is demanding too much from me. I will now go work on the dutch trainset, some random graphics and new industries for openttd.

Goodbye

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 31 Aug 2004 13:29

4 steamers and tenders for them is not much demanded, even Purno done much more.

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 31 Aug 2004 13:29

Sad to hear that Singaporekid.

Good luck

Back to the set...

That leaves us short of someone to draw steam trains for us.

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Singaporekid_92 wrote:the project leader is demanding too much from me

Sounds about right, Akalamanaia does demand A LOT from people. He just wants the set completed as soon as possible.

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Before you say Purno does more, Purno is 7 years older than Singaporekid. AFAIK

Singaporekid is 12, and thefore should be let off lightly.
Also, he did most of it... (just incomplete), but it wasn't up to your standards.

I admit to complaining about his tender for the Hr1, since I lost 4 days trying to fix the code when, it was the sprites wrong.

Maybe you expectted to much from a 12 year old?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 31 Aug 2004 17:43

Akalamanaia wrote:"You Should use" *KKHM* you got some nerve there, and the dates are staying as they were before, not changing them because of few enthusiasts cause i got these stats from one.

If you keep talking like this, you might loose another artist, I'm serious.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 31 Aug 2004 17:54

He say "We Should", thats demanding not suggesting to me. I didn't mean to offend you but i said what i had in mind at the moment, i don't like when people come and drop something at my doorstep and command me to pick it up. Especially when he doesn't back his claim by some proof other than saying "i asked a few enthuasiasists and they said this and that"

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 31 Aug 2004 17:56

The guy only offered us some info. That's good. Maybe he picked the wrong words, but he was trying to help us.

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 31 Aug 2004 18:01

Akalamanaia,

He tried helping, maybe if he got some proof. Then him and jpl talked, we could work out more accurate dates.

(although he should word it better.)

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We don't know if ether one is fully correct though...

kemkim · Post by **kemkim** » 31 Aug 2004 19:06

Purno wrote:The guy only offered us some info. That's good. Maybe he picked the wrong words, but he was trying to help us.

Sorry, yes I tried to help, my native language isn't English but Finnish and so I don't always know how to write it right. I did a lot of work to correct the list, and so it's not nice if you ignore it. The dates are from sfnet.harrastus.rautatie group, and you can read the thread here in Finnish.

[edit by patchman] Fixed the link

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 31 Aug 2004 19:30

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Thanks Patchman

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 31 Aug 2004 19:43

You couldve just posted the changes, not the ones that werent changed, enyways here's what the other guys said supposed to be right..(they were really nitpicking thou, there only were 1 or 2 years diffrence mostly,only 1 had 10 year diffrence)

HV2(Steam)1919-1968
PR1(Steam)1924-1970
TK3(Steam)1927-1975
HR1(Steam)1937-1974
DM4(Diesel)1952-1971
VV12 Was Right
DM7 1952-1971
HR11 1955-1972
DV15 1958-2004(still in use)
DR12 1959-1990
DR14 1969-2004(Still in use).

There were only few 1 or 2 year diffrences in most, few had notable 5 or 10 years. But since we started to dig stats from the real experts, ill ask running costs and costs to buy then if they would happen to know a approximate figure. Sorry My rudeness before but i just had a staff member leave and your post was little badly constructed to my tastes. And you could've just private messaged me.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Sep 2004 17:50

We need some trains from time period 2004 - 2050 in TTD. How to solve this problem, since we can't use real-life stats?

(Japanese MagLev in Finland?)
(German TransRapid in Finland?)
(Just some fantasy trains in Finland?)
(Using Rail, Monorail, MagLev, something else?)

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 01 Sep 2004 17:58

there is the SM5..

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Sep 2004 18:00

Akalamanaia wrote:there is the SM5..

That's not enough.

I once heard that you need a new train every 5 years. So from 2004 to 2050 that would be approximately 9 trains, IICC*

* If I Counted Correctly

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 02 Sep 2004 12:01

Usually total conversion sets mean they have their own style of play, that also means our set would be up to as long as 2030.(there are trains up to that period).

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 02 Sep 2004 17:21

Since Singaporekid quit, I was approached to do the steam. Here's a revised HR1 and tender. The complete spriteset will be drawn soon. Just a previre to whet your appetites

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 02 Sep 2004 18:00

That looks awesome Danmack *gets a drool bucket*

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 03 Sep 2004 06:01

Looks very good compared to mine

, but the tender is a bit too tall

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