sc79 wrote:You are right - in theory anyway. I'm not going to argue specifics, simply because my knowledge isn't that good
However, considering the original post, I wouldn't class the OP as particularly tech-savvy. While overclocking may seem simple to you, you pretty much made the point in your last post that things can go bad if you don't atleast have some understanding of what you're doing. Coupled with the fact that overclocking can cause a system to be more unstable (which is the last thing you want for someone with limited troubleshooting skills), and (I'm pretty sure) will void your warranty, its certainly not the perfect solution.
While shopping around seems like the logical thing to do given the responses here, keep in mind that hes buying local, and that the price may include more than just the raw components (such as on-site repairs, tech support etc).
Also, calling people stupid and ignorant for pointing out the potential dangers of overclocking - especially when you concede they do exist - will probably have people putting you in that same category. The fact is, they do exist. Its like telling people its perfectly safe to drive faster than the speed limit.... just don't hit anything!
very intelligent post... indeed I praise praise your approach.
you're right - overclocking isn't exactly for everyone. the gigabyte motherboard I specified actually greatly simplifies the process - the only things one has to adjust would be the CPU host frequency, and the RAM multiplier - which are clearly marked. I also offered to help.
You do have a point about buying it locally - but honestly, there is no reason in this day and age for someone to be savvy enough to fix the basic problems when it comes to computers. Its 2008, not 1998 - over a decade has passed since the rise of the internet and the home computer. I assume though, due to the fact he named all the specific parts - including his choice of operating systems - that he's going to assemble it himself. Apparently he's located in florida which means he doesn't pay tax when ordering from Newegg.
My assessment of peoples intelligence is not meant to be insulting - simply stating the truth. Its pretty ridiculous when people come and mouth off about things they have no clue about... ignorance is not necessarily a bad thing. Its good to have a thirst for knowledge despite being ignorant. But there are people in this world that insist on being ignorant and belligerent ... the best example being:
Madassasin: (It is assassin you know? Two S's)Comparing performance of overclocked vs stock is a stupid thing to do - I can cool my CPU with Nitrogen Oxide and overclock it three times (though it might terminate the CPU).
No, comparing performance of overclocked versus stock is not stupid - if you get $200 performance for $50, not only are you getting an incredible deal BUT when you want to upgrade you won't feel bad about wasting that additional $150.... $50 CPU isn't such a big deal. Hur.
Secondly, nitrogen oxide is a gas - you can't cool with nitrogen oxide. This is an attempt to seem smart and clever, and failing miserably... liquid nitrogen is the solution people use to cool intensely hot objects - and its not a regular consumer product meaning its pretty damn hard to obtain. Double whammy.
Lastly - no, you can't overclock 3 times for three reasons: you're not gunna get liquid nitrogen because you don't know what you're talking about to begin with. Secondly, you'd be achieving some immense bottleneck somewhere - OR you wouldn't be able to reach the speeds due to a component not being able to handle it, IE CPU voltage barrier, stable bus speed barrier, or something along those lines. Lastly, overclocking a 1.6 Ghz CPU would result in a 4.8 Ghz clock speed - most people are lucky to reach 3.6-4.0 Ghz... no, even the most experienced overclocker knows this is next to impossible and highly unrealistic. So you can take that 2.66 Ghz E8200 that you'd "overclock three times" to ~8 Ghz and shove it, idiot. Hahahaha. Sit down.
Anyways, to remain on-topic: SirXavius, I'm confident that, regardless of your current knowledge, you could easily build the machine I specified or one similar - not only saving time and money, but allowing for great potential upgrades in the future AND achieving insanely superior performance RIGHT NOW. Like I said, feel free to contact me or message me with questions or anything. I've been building custom machines for people for many years, and I can guarantee the performance.