The Thread Of Randomness

[dol422]

6 months of eternal darkness.

I'd rather that than the storm we're currently having here in England.

[ChillCore]

6 months of eternal darkness.

I'd rather that than the storm we're currently having here in England.

you sure? 6 months of that freeze, a year, made Björk .. just saying



I mean ... I do ... I (really do love that woman going 'wild'

[dol422]

6 months of eternal darkness.

I'd rather that than the storm we're currently having here in England.

you sure? 6 months of that freeze, a year, made Björk .. just saying



I mean ... I do ... I (really do love that woman going 'wild'

Not the freeze, but I'll happily take the darkness.

[Chrill]

6 months of eternal darkness.

I'd rather that than the storm we're currently having here in England.

Oh but that storm is here now. Paired with the empty brown nothingness of Scandinavian fall.

[Duhkhaa]

I'd rather that than the storm we're currently having here in England.

you sure? 6 months of that freeze, a year, made Björk .. just saying



I mean ... I do ... I (really do love that woman going 'wild'

Not the freeze, but I'll happily take the darkness.

You'd soon fall into depression with the lack of vitamin D.

[Chrill]

You'd soon fall into depression with the lack of vitamin D.

Yes, in Sweden in the wintertime we all take Vitamin D supplements. And a lot of people have "sun lamps" or go to "sunlight therapy" which is essentially just fooling your brain into thinking it's daytime by using special UV lights and this triggers serotonin production in the brain.

[JohnFranklin523]

I just want to ask about a crazy question:

Who has ever gone from Penzance to Wick by trains?
In the context of China, it should be Mohe to Sanya; in the context of Japan, it should be Wakkanai or Nemuro to Makurazaki. That means going from the very south to the very north by trains.
Well, only the craziest guys do it...

[Pilot]

Who has ever gone from Penzance to Wick by trains?

Whilst I've been to both locations by train, I've never travelled directly between the two. It's not really a journey you do to be fair as both towns are rather small.

It will involve either an overnight stay somewhere en-route, or the use of one of the sleeper services, and the Caledonian Sleeper to/from Inverness in particular is very expensive.

[Redirect Left]

Who has ever gone from Penzance to Wick by trains?

I just posted about someone who did a 13 hour journey, the longest single train in the UK over in random transport chat, it's quite a ride, much longer than Penzance to Wick!

[Pilot]

Who has ever gone from Penzance to Wick by trains?

I just posted about someone who did a 13 hour journey, the longest single train in the UK over in random transport chat, it's quite a ride, much longer than Penzance to Wick!

Aberdeen to Penzance isn't longer than Penzance <-> Wick. It is however quicker to change off the Aberdeen to Penzance service at Haymarket, get down to Birmingham, and pick up a CrossCountry in front.

[Duhkhaa]

You'd soon fall into depression with the lack of vitamin D.

Yes, in Sweden in the wintertime we all take Vitamin D supplements. And a lot of people have "sun lamps" or go to "sunlight therapy" which is essentially just fooling your brain into thinking it's daytime by using special UV lights and this triggers serotonin production in the brain.

Super interesting! Does everyone do this or do some do without? As a Western European, I can't imagine living without UV rays for 6 months...

[Redirect Left]

Aberdeen to Penzance isn't longer than Penzance <-> Wick. It is however quicker to change off the Aberdeen to Penzance service at Haymarket, get down to Birmingham, and pick up a CrossCountry in front.

Oh no, its not longer by far, which i even pointed out in my post, stating the longest single ride. I certainly wouldn't want to be on any train for more than 4-5 hours, hah. For anything longer, i'd probably just either A) look to see if I can get a plane there, or B) ...well its probably not worth the time it takes to get there anyway. At that point looking at photos other people made is easier, quicker & cheaper.

Super interesting! Does everyone do this or do some do without? As a Western European, I can't imagine living without UV rays for 6 months...

I take vitamin D in England, a huge 4000IU, the maximum thought to be tolerable by the body, per day. however for me it is mostly as it (may) protect against relapses in Multiple Sclerosis, and conveniently Vitamin D is one of the cheapest things to prescribe someone, so its fairly routine to do it for MS sufferers in countries where sunlight isn't guaranteed frequently, or for people who rarely go outside anyway for X or Y reason.

[CTarana45]

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[Chrill]

Super interesting! Does everyone do this or do some do without? As a Western European, I can't imagine living without UV rays for 6 months...

I would say probably 4 out of 5 eat Vitamin D supplements, but most people do not use these UV lights in their home. Maybe 1 in 10 do?

[techwear]

You'd soon fall into depression with the lack of vitamin D.

Yes, in Sweden in the wintertime we all take Vitamin D supplements. And a lot of people have "sun lamps" or go to "sunlight therapy" which is essentially just fooling your brain into thinking it's daytime by using special UV lights and this triggers serotonin production in the brain.

Super interesting! Does everyone do this or do some do without? As a Western European, I can't imagine living without UV rays for 6 months...

I lived in Norway for several years. The first few days, even weeks, are fine. But after a while, you just can't stand the night. So you go for UV sessions and take supplements, otherwise it's unbearable.

[Duhkhaa]

Redirect Left wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 20:10
I take vitamin D in England, a huge 4000IU, the maximum thought to be tolerable by the body, per day. however for me it is mostly as it (may) protect against relapses in Multiple Sclerosis, and conveniently Vitamin D is one of the cheapest things to prescribe someone, so its fairly routine to do it for MS sufferers in countries where sunlight isn't guaranteed frequently, or for people who rarely go outside anyway for X or Y reason.

I didn't know it was a problem in England too. I admit it's not always sunny in UK, but still...

Chrill wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 14:31
I would say probably 4 out of 5 eat Vitamin D supplements, but most people do not use these UV lights in their home. Maybe 1 in 10 do?

1 in 10 already sounds crazy to me.

techwear wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023 15:54
I lived in Norway for several years. The first few days, even weeks, are fine. But after a while, you just can't stand the night. So you go for UV sessions and take supplements, otherwise it's unbearable.

I'm not surprised. I was thinking of moving to a Nordic country in the future, but it's a big turn-off. Still, they're wonderful countries.

[Redirect Left]

Redirect Left wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 20:10
I take vitamin D in England, a huge 4000IU, the maximum thought to be tolerable by the body, per day. however for me it is mostly as it (may) protect against relapses in Multiple Sclerosis, and conveniently Vitamin D is one of the cheapest things to prescribe someone, so its fairly routine to do it for MS sufferers in countries where sunlight isn't guaranteed frequently, or for people who rarely go outside anyway for X or Y reason.

I didn't know it was a problem in England too. I admit it's not always sunny in UK, but still...

It was theorised by my nurses that a large portion of the UK is probably deficient in Vitamin D to some degree, especially outside of the height of summer. But most people have no reason to get blood tests done to show it. Apparently nearly everyone they do tests on is deficient to some degree, and they work with near all MS people so... is not enough vitamin D a cause of MS?! Probably not, but we don't know what causes MS so it also isn't entirely discounted, probably. It is more common in the northern hemisphere* though, and we have the most gloomy weather...

* after accounting for population differences, and averaging it out, you still get more in the northern hemisphere per 1000 people.

[Chrill]

techwear wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023 15:54
I lived in Norway for several years. The first few days, even weeks, are fine. But after a while, you just can't stand the night. So you go for UV sessions and take supplements, otherwise it's unbearable.

I'm not surprised. I was thinking of moving to a Nordic country in the future, but it's a big turn-off. Still, they're wonderful countries.

We do come with other advantages, including the wonderful nature and clean air. As well as lovely summers, where depending on how far north you go you can get 24 hours of sunshine uninterrupted. In Stockholm at the peak, the sun sets at around 10pm and rises again around 3:30am. Of course at this latitude, even after sunset it doesn't really get dark because the sun is essentially hovering just below the horizon. You can easily go for a midnight stroll or even a midnight bath in a lake in the moonlight.

But it is fair to point out I had a Brazilian friend who spent two winters in Sweden and then moved back home. He loved learning to go skiing, he loved the Swedish summers, but he could not cope with the winters. It was too dark, too cold, too isolated. Admittedly he is currently in the process of moving to Norway so we shall see how long he lasts.

[Duhkhaa]

We do come with other advantages, including the wonderful nature and clean air. As well as lovely summers, where depending on how far north you go you can get 24 hours of sunshine uninterrupted. In Stockholm at the peak, the sun sets at around 10pm and rises again around 3:30am. Of course at this latitude, even after sunset it doesn't really get dark because the sun is essentially hovering just below the horizon. You can easily go for a midnight stroll or even a midnight bath in a lake in the moonlight.

But it is fair to point out I had a Brazilian friend who spent two winters in Sweden and then moved back home. He loved learning to go skiing, he loved the Swedish summers, but he could not cope with the winters. It was too dark, too cold, too isolated. Admittedly he is currently in the process of moving to Norway so we shall see how long he lasts.

I must admit that your arguments are convincing. Long summers, midnight dips in lakes, it's all very appealing. Maybe I should come only in summer and then get back home.

Damn, it must be a big contrast with Brazil. We'll see how he does.

[orudge]

I usually eat Corn Flakes for breakfast every day, which is fortified with vitamin D (and other vitamins).

Given I grew up in the far north of Scotland, our summers were rather like those described in Stockholm - very long days in summer, without too much darkness at night, and very short days in winter. I’m a bit further south now, but the days are still pretty short in winter. That doesn’t generally bother me too much though - spring is never too far away.