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DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 28 Mar 2007 10:53

Illegal_Alien wrote:And its introduced on the AutoRAI (Car exhibition )

It's clear that they remodeled a car to a train.

Indeed what do you need with a radiator on a electric train? I think this is not the final product. (I hope so.)

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 28 Mar 2007 11:46

I hope so too. I haven't really found any other information on it except from the NS itself.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2007 16:12

PROTOS is in tha House, (He needs to get his yet bleu livery though)

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 28 Mar 2007 16:27

Talk about ugly, I mean, this will get you into trouble if you were the designer right?

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2007 16:35

I like the look of the PROTOS, that Hispeed thing isnt real yet so i cant realy yell if its ugly or not. Btw the movie of the Introduction on the AutoRAI shows a model wich looks a bit better.

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 28 Mar 2007 16:50

That HiSpeed thing looks like a stretched Honda concept car. The Protos thing looks a little less ugly.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 30 Mar 2007 16:33

I like the doors on the PROTOS, don't ask why..

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 30 Mar 2007 16:35

jpmaster wrote:I like the doors on the PROTOS, don't ask why..

Well, the big windows in the doors are quite nice IMO, I wonder what it's specifications are. (And the specs. of the highspeed 'uglynose' too.)

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 30 Mar 2007 16:37

That Protos thing seems to be very long, there is a long way between each bogie! It looks like it would never make a corner or it should snap in the middle!

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 30 Mar 2007 16:38

The spec of the Ugly nose can be found on http://www.highspeedalliance.nl (He will have a service running speed of 250kmph)

Protos:

The maximum speed of the electric and diesel unit version is both 160 km/h.

Thats what i know.

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 30 Mar 2007 16:42

Ameecher wrote:That Protos thing seems to be very long, there is a long way between each bogie! It looks like it would never make a corner or it should snap in the middle!

Well this is maybe interesting: The interiorlayout of the train. It looks indeed quite long.

http://www.valleilijn.nl/index.php?pid=13

Photos:

http://www.valleilijn.nl/index.php?pid=14

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 30 Mar 2007 16:46

Depends on how tight the curves are that it will go over i suppose.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 30 Mar 2007 17:02

These are recolored ICMm cars:

Currently they can be found in the wild in the "old" BeNeLux trains.

Wich are going to be used until the "Albatros" (Wich was if i am correct its name, and its type was V250

).

Bombardier Traxx + ICRm + Traxx will be the temporary train wich go max 160 kmph.

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 30 Mar 2007 17:09

I've seen those today! I was already wondering what kind of train it was.

What is Traxx?

Ooh and I found info + specs. about the HSA:

http://www.highspeedalliance.nl/static/ ... einen.html

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 30 Mar 2007 17:16

This is a Traxx:

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 30 Mar 2007 17:25

As a temporary follow-up to the NS1700/1800? (Will it be painted yellow?

)

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 30 Mar 2007 17:43

Mr. X wrote:As a temporary follow-up to the NS1700/1800? (Will it be painted yellow? )

I don't think we need more lok's.
We have too many of them.
We now make pull/pull configurations with them.
9 of the 10 trains needed for the 1500 train series in the service Amsterdam - Deventer will be a Lok<> 9? carriages <> Lok.

jonnie47 · Post by **jonnie47** » 30 Mar 2007 17:50

looks like the br class 90 91 & 92

Post by **Chrill** » 30 Mar 2007 18:13

Mr. X wrote:As a temporary follow-up to the NS1700/1800? (Will it be painted yellow? )

And that marks post 8000!

*sorry for goin off-topic*

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 30 Mar 2007 20:44

Mr. X wrote:As a temporary follow-up to the NS1700/1800? (Will it be painted yellow? )

No this one has got the ETCS or ETSC signal system thingy, they keep there AngelTrains look afaik. Besides the 1700/1800 will burn when they get 25Kv

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