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£560M Network Upgrade to Northern Services

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So, apparently they're finally going to pump a bit of money into the rail structure up North, about time too.

Taken from my local papers site, I'm sure I found the same on the BBC as few hours ago, but alas, I can't find it currently;

Clicky Clicky - This does focus on the Huddersfield area, due to it being a Huddersfield based paper. the actual plan affects mainly Leeds through to Manchester routes, and their intermediate stations, from what I can gather from the article there.

Apparently they're also going to be electrifying several routes too.

So, anywho. Whats your thoughts on this? Personally, I can only say good things, as I know how ridiculously overcrowded trains get on Leeds / Manchester services through this area.

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Network Rail - Info from NRs own page. Stating what they're hoping to do with funding.

EDIT: Found a better article.
The below is taken from here (Building.co.uk), but copied here as you require an account to read it, and I assume most people won't want to do that ;)
Building.co.uk Article wrote: Plan includes £560m Northern Hub and major station upgrades with £5.6bn of new money

Network Rail today set out its proposals for a £10.5bn capital investment plan for the five years between 2014 and 2019.

The plans, which have to be assessed and agreed by both the government and the rail industry regulator, will if accepted pay for the completion of the Crossrail and Thameslink upgrades, as well as a range of new capital programmes including the £560m Northern Hub project.

The funding, for what Network Rail calls Control Period 5 (CP5), is a 11% cut from the £11.8bn investment package for the current control period, CP4, which runs from 2009 to 2014. However, the cut is less than the efficiency savings of 16% Network Rail is anticipating it will be able to make through better procurement and more collaborative working over the period.

The £10bn funding package includes £4.9bn of existing commitments, including Crossrail, Thameslink, the electrification of the Great Western Railway and the rebuilding of Birmingham New Street.

It also includes an additional £5.6bn for new projects. These include:

The Northern Hub - a £560m scheme to deliver over 700 more daily services between Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle and Sheffield
Electrification of the Midland main line, North Trans-Pennine, Cardiff Valleys and further schemes in Scotland
Improvements for medium-to-large- size stations such as Fenchurch Street, Wimbledon and Liverpool Central
Investment in freight capacity to deliver a 30% increase in freight tonne kilometres

£200m scheme to improve journey times and increase the numbers of services to and from Inverness and Aberdeen and to the commuter network of the two cities

New operating strategy - moving from 800 signal boxes to 14 modern signalling centres (30 year time-frame)

Paul Plummer, group strategy director at Network Rail, said he was confident the plan would be taken seriously by government. “In the past we have got a large proportion of what we asked for from these proposals, although in some cases at a different time. I think we’ve ended up with quite a degree of credibility within government, particularly as regards to what schemes, as opposed to how much funding, should be supported.”

Plummer said Network Rail was making the case to government that the go ahead for the High Speed 2 line from London to Birmingham, which is treated separately to this plan, should not be a reason to lower investment in the rest of the network.

The plan also covers the operational and maintenance costs of the UK rail network. In total it envisages spending of £20.2bn in the operation and maintenance of the network, making efficiency savings of 16%. This is at the bottom end of the efficiency savings requested in the review of the Netowkr by Sir Roy McNulty, published earlier this year.

Plummer said it would only be possible to go further than that if the government went ahead with radical changes in the way Network Rail works with train operators.

The document now goes into a process to get ratified, leading to a final determination by the rail regulator, the ORR, in October 2013.

Michael Roberts, chief executive of the Association of Train Operating Companies said: “Rail has a bright future in supporting a successful green economy in the years ahead. This plan shows how we can do that by providing a better quality of service to growing numbers of passengers at a more affordable cost.”

Alasdair Reisner director of external affairs at the Civil Engineering Contractors Association, said: “With the rail sector currently playing a crucial role in supporting output in the UK infrastructure sector, many contractors will have an eye on the likely shape and size of the market after 2014. We welcome the continuing push for investment in the network, and the work that Network Rail has done with industry to drive greater efficiency.”
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Yay! (but I'll believe it when I see it)...
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47434 wrote:Yay! (but I'll believe it when I see it)...
Indeed. Who knows, maybe Milnsbridge will get a station?

I kid of course, that'll never happen, ever. Theres probably more chance of me getting the Holmfirth branch line back :p
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47434 wrote:Yay! (but I'll believe it when I see it)...
Indeed. Who knows, maybe Milnsbridge will get a station?

I kid of course, that'll never happen, ever. Theres probably more chance of me getting the Holmfirth branch line back :p
A new station to serve both Milsbridge and Golcar is apparently on WYITAs wishlist, but quite a long way down, sadly- in any case, if it's on the site of the original Milnsbridge & Longwood station, it'll be on the wrong side of the viaduct from me. If it's on the site of the old Golcar station, it'll be a 20minute walk in the other direction. Looking at the stretch of line, the best site to serve both villages would be, co-incidentally, about as close to my flat as it could be! Of course, both (and the Holmfirth Branch) were closed in the 1968 by old Dr. Dickie Beeching. The Holmfirth Branch should ideally never have closed- certainly the viaduct at Mytholmbridge should have been protected from demolition- If it were still there, it would probably be feasible to re-open (edit: not withstanding the homes built on the trackbed at Brockholes), given the amount of traffic into Huddersfield along the A616 every morning. In fact, it's really annoying that the viaduct was demolished, considering that the two huge, and much later-built red brick viaducts at Horbury Bridge and Crigglestone on the Wakefield-Dewsbury line, which was ALWAYS a white elephant, are still standing. X(

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2nd edit. According to wikipedia, Holmfirth was closed in 1959, lifted in 1966, so not a Beeching closure. The viaduct was demolished in '76. Weirdly the only surviving arch is the one over the A616, usually that'd be the first to go.
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Scheme still needs government approval....
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Nowhere near me, I got excited then :(

Only work I've seen up here lately is to keep a viaduct intact, knocking 5 minutes off journey times (but only because 5 minutes had been added on as it became dilapidated)... still probably 30% longer than the journey should be.
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47434 wrote:[Lots of text regarding Milnsbridge, Chavcar Golcar & Holmfirth was here]
Aye, when my Grandma first moved here, the viaduct was standing, it was demolished a year later. The arch bridge over New Mill Road (A616) is indeed still standing, I see i go under it nearly every day on the bus. The bridge is now basically a little tree reserve now, with nothing but trees growing on it. I think the feasability of ever having that branch again is near zilch now. Houses were built over it at Brockholes, although the original ditch at Thongsbridge is still there that once carried Thongsbridge Station, both ends of it are now houses though, the road bridges over what was the station (now a ditch in a ground) are still there though. There are also substantial housing developments on the straight from Thongsbridge into where Holmfirth Station was. (And still partly is, the main station building is still in place, albeit converted).


Also: RE Government approval, a lot of people I know seem to think the Government will approve the majority of the planned scheme laid out in the article I copy pasted, especially the Northern bit.
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It being Holmfirth, they could probably convert the remaining trackbed into a guided-bathtub-on-wheels-way :lol:
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Does that mean the Cumbrian Coast is going to be the same shower of s*** until 2019, then?
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