VAST Development

[kamnet]

I like it as well, I'm not sure I'd like it a part of VAST specifically, but it's not my set

[Lord Aro]

YES.

[Kogut]

What about passenger overpass made using method from here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... rain+sheds.
It would be useful here:

[zero.eight]

Could be done. I will need to test for glitchyness. It will have to go somewhere else since there is no room in Paths (one space left, need two). Possibly an extension with a load of other tiles.

[Irwe]

I think this set is really good! Just a funny thing I noticed about Koguts pic.

Playground station tile and playground house

[Kogut]

House is yours, tile from Red*Star.

[Irwe]

tile from Red*Star.

Oh I thought it was from VAST, oh well.

[zero.eight]

What about passenger overpass [..]

The only possible way of doing this currently is to use an object with a fake road underneath. It isn't enough to use an adjacent tile and extend the sprite over the road because it will glitch. MLSS works because it draws sprites "above" the current tile in such a way that they appear to be on the tiles above. Objects that can be entered by vehicles would allow this, but we aren't there yet. The current Overpass tiles already provide something like a fake road overpass.

Currently working on temperate seasonal changes for parks and the like. No snooow drawn yet, but maybe I can work on that since I can't get a train into London

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[Kogut]

What about passenger overpass [..]

The only possible way of doing this currently is to use an object with a fake road underneath. It isn't enough to use an adjacent tile and extend the sprite over the road because it will glitch. MLSS works because it draws sprites "above" the current tile in such a way that they appear to be on the tiles above.

So maybe it is possible to place "bridge tile" not on the left/right side (as I suggested) but on the tile below?

PS: Your picture is amazing!

[zero.eight]

So maybe it is possible to place "bridge tile" not on the left/right side (as I suggested) but on the tile below?

Good point

Something like this would do the job:

[Zhall]

This is starting to look like loller... erm Roller Coaster tycoon, with all the different types of pathways...

Interesting though. Helps add A LOT of variety to citys, and cut down their cookie cutter appearance.

[Absolutis]

Could be done. I will need to test for glitchyness. It will have to go somewhere else since there is no room in Paths (one space left, need two). Possibly an extension with a load of other tiles.

Hmm, what about having a new "track type" called paths (0kmh limit mby?) and then a new bridge, which looks like the other paths?

[Kogut]

Custom bridgeheads are still TODO, so bridge would have to be 3 tiles long to allow road below.

@zero.eight It looks great!

[zero.eight]

I am redeveloping the Paths class from scratch. For end users, this will result in seasonal changes (for plants at least), proper ground sprite highlighting (catchment area and construction grid) and, for the Objects branch, use of the views feature. For me it means a more consistent approach to coding and arranging sprites (= less time looking for things and more time making new stuff).

Since now is a good time for redrawing sprites, what should happen to shrubs, trees, flowers etc. in climates other than temperate?

A few possibilities:

1) No difference from temperate e.g. An oak tree built in a desert will look like any other oak tree.
2) Allow construction in different climates and use "realistic" graphics e.g. Oak trees in the desert will be drawn as dead.
3) Don't allow construction in climates that wouldn't support a particular plant e.g. No oak trees in tropical.

[SwissFan91]

Option 2 sounds good to me, but obviously requires more work on your part. There are other station sets that employ this seasonality quite well, such as NewStations. Is enabling graphics to be snow-covered part of this update?

[kamnet]

If it's an ornamental plant and would be able to survive the climate, then leave it. If not, then replace it with one that can. Since we're going for realism and all

[Dante123]

4) make a separate set for other climates ?

[zero.eight]

Is enabling graphics to be snow-covered part of this update?

Possibly If I can complete the rewrite soon I will work on snow and get it into 0.3.0.

4) make a separate set for other climates ?

That would mean a lot more work given that the differences would only be related to plants. I would consider it if IDs were running out, and currently only about 30/~250 are being used.

If it's an ornamental plant and would be able to survive the climate, then leave it. If not, then replace it with one that can. Since we're going for realism and all

Seems like the best approach.

Regarding snow: would you like it to be enable-able (uh have a parameter to turn it on) in temperate?

[George]

4) make a separate set for other climates ?

Imho bad idea

[zero.eight]

Regarding trees in different climates, I'll make everything appear the same in all climates in 0.3.0 and decide what to do after everything has been playtested for a while.



Meanwhile I wanted to try drawing a glassy highrise HQ. I think the result is quite nice. Unfortunately anything higher would glitch. Oh well.

I will put it in a NewGRF with some other base graphics modifications. Ideally this would include the whole HQ range.

Any tweakage required?