What to do with an All Line Rover Ticket...

[Ameecher]

Think ALR but valid in 30 European countries (not the UK though because you live there).

[Geo Ghost]

Ah so that's what it's called.

I heard something about that before but never knew the name of it.
Definitely adding that to the list of possible things to do in the future.

[Ameecher]

Ah so that's what it's called.

I heard something about that before but never knew the name of it.
Definitely adding that to the list of possible things to do in the future.

The most fun I think I have ever had in my life was the 5 weeks I had in Europe last summer with two quality mates and a lot of beer.

[telegramsam]

Interrail do rail passes around Europe: http://www.interrailnet.com/
But they aren't valid in the country you are resident in, and there aren't even discounts to the border in the UK, unlike almost every other country in the Interrail scheme. Ah well...

[orudge]

You're the worst one for claiming the language is changing when people like me b**** about people ruining our language!

I do? I'm usually complaining about all these silly new-fangled words, rather than embracing them... or do you mean Kev?

[teccuk]

Ah so that's what it's called.

I heard something about that before but never knew the name of it.
Definitely adding that to the list of possible things to do in the future.

The most fun I think I have ever had in my life was the 5 weeks I had in Europe last summer with two quality mates and a lot of beer.

Same here went with a now ex a few years back. Can still remember everywhere we went... deep breath... Malaga, Cortes de la frontera, Rhonda, Algecerias, Morrocco, Algecerias, Cadiz... then used the interail... Seville, Madrid, Barcelona, Perpingon, Montpelier, Marseille, Nice *passport issues*, Marseille, Nice, Monocco, Lyon, Geneva, Zurich, Interlaken, Zurich, Berlin, Amsterdam.

With a UK rover, i'd do some lines i've always wanted to do, Tyne Valley, Settle Carlisle, Highlands line, Cumbrian Coast etc. I dont think current missus woudl put up with my train geekery though. So i might need to find a mate who would, and none of them spring to mind :/

[yorkie]

.. the ALR isn't valid on TFL services ...

Not quite sure what you are defining as 'TfL services', but that isn't quite true.

London Overground operate under a Concession Agreement with TfL, and you can use an ALR on all LO services.

Also, where there are dual ticketing arrangements then LU services can be used with an NR ticket.

My understanding is that the ALR is not valid for cross-London transfers, and is not valid for journeys to LU destinations, in other words it would have the same validity as a ticket to London Terminals (but with additional validity through Thameslink of course). But that doesn't mean it is not valid on all LU or all TfL services.

I don't see how they can stop you using an ALR for King's Cross to Moorgate, as National Rail tickets that are valid to London Terminals are valid for the purposes of connecting between King's Cross and Moorgate (not valid at intermediate stations, although an ALR would surely be valid at Farringdon but that may be a grey area). Journeys like Harrow & Wealdstone to Queens Park, Harrow-on-the-Hill to Amersham, West Ham to Upminster, etc.. these would be valid with any NR ticket that is valid for that route.

There are also some routes where I believe that it probably wouldn't be valid but would effectively be usable (ie, no-one is realistically going to stop you) such as West Brompton to Wimbledon.

[JamieLei]

KX to Farringdon would probably be valid. After all it's a duplicate of the Thameslink journey.

[Chris]

Slightly related question , if I have a ticket from Amersham to Sheffield, then can I use Amersham-Marylebone, walk to Baker Street, Baker Street to King's Cross on the tube - I'm not sure whether it would be valid?

[yorkie]

Slightly related question , if I have a ticket from Amersham to Sheffield, then can I use Amersham-Marylebone, walk to Baker Street, Baker Street to King's Cross on the tube - I'm not sure whether it would be valid?

You could either get the Met all the way to Kings Cross St Pancras, or take the tube from Marylebone to Kings Cross (changing at Oxford Circus is probably quickest), or walk from Marylebone or take the tube to Baker St and take the Met to King's Cross St Pancras. Personally I'd take a lovely A stock while you still can and avoid the tubes and 165s

Providing your ticket is routed Any Permitted (not route Chesterfield), you could also go to Liverpool St and go via Cambridge if you wanted, that's probably the furthest out of your way that you could go on a Sheffield ticket. (A ticket to Scotland is valid out of LST and PAD! )

Good place for ticket questions is here, questions like yours would usually be answered within about 15 minutes!

A Super Off Peak ticket is valid on the 0930 from KGX (change at DON) or 1055 from STP on weekdays, and any train from Amersham to London to connect.

By the way if you are doing a day return or if you are travelling at 'peak' times then you may want to use a combination of tickets for this journey.

[Chris]

I would take the A-stock, but I got slightly annoyed about the smell of p*ss in them! However I think I will prefer them to what they are going to introduce because on the A-stock there are seats.

Thanks for the reply, but unfortunately due to engineering works, I think I will be travelling by car due to time constraints (the replacement bus service would get me to KX 8 minutes before my train leaves, and if its late, getting the next train would mean a whole new ticket .

[Kevo00]

I've got to say, I do love the A-stock. Especially the way the doors kind of go inside the windows on them. Still, progress marches on.

[yorkie]

Thanks for the reply, but unfortunately due to engineering works, I think I will be travelling by car due to time constraints (the replacement bus service would get me to KX 8 minutes before my train leaves, and if its late, getting the next train would mean a whole new ticket .

Sounds like an Advance ticket? If you purchase a ticket from Amersham to Sheffield, then the system will allow sufficient time to make the connection. Providing you are at Amersham in time to make the suggested service from there, if there are any delays to your journey, you will be allowed to complete your journey on later trains.

[Ameecher]

The new S-stock should be a great improvement over the A stock in the centre of town, admittedly out in Watford it's not going to be ideal but the air-con and the ability to actually move down the train and therefore even out the loadings a bit should help a lot.

[Kevo00]

The new S-stock should be a great improvement over the A stock in the centre of town, admittedly out in Watford it's not going to be ideal but the air-con and the ability to actually move down the train and therefore even out the loadings a bit should help a lot.

Give it six months and the darlings won't even notice. Besides, the new furniture will be cleaner and the interiors lighter, and quite honestly if you were using the stock on a daily basis that would make a real difference.

Also, I haven't heard any commuter complaints about the LO 378s having longitudinal seating where the old 313s had facing seating.

[yorkie]

Commuters do not like longitudinal seating but their complaints have been listened to and the S stock now does have some facing seats. A rare victory for the passenger!

[Chris]

Commuters do not like longitudinal seating but their complaints have been listened to and the S stock now does have some facing seats. A rare victory for the passenger!

Its not that they don't like it, its just that if the seating is longitudinal then hardly anybody gets a seat and you have to stand all the way (up to and over an hour).

[Dave]

Heart of England 3 in 7 for like £43.00 with a railcard. That's what it's all about.