VAST Development

[zero.eight]

Development thread for VAST.

I'll post ideas for testing here. Complete releases will be in the Release thread (link above). The source repository is https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/vast.


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Original post


First up:

The tiles in the Path class are arguably too bright for OTTD's style. I would prefer the paths to be more red than pink, so I've attached some darker test path sprites for people to have a go with. Darker brown tiles are also included in case they look better, although I think they are ok at the moment.

Extra sprites are in the Test class.

[Nite Owl]

I think the darker combination's look better and fit in better with both the OpenGFX coloring and most station set's coloring. I would even go so far as to say that a combination of the Red+2 and the Brown+1 might fit in the best with both.

[Pingaware]

Not sure. The darker the red is, the better in my opinion. However, I'm not nearly so certain about the brown. Can you give a combination shot of Red +2 and Brown +1, please? Not very good at visualising things like that

[Kogut]

I think that grass have even better future.

[zero.eight]

Added 3 more tiles:

R + 2 B + 1
R + 1.5 B + 1
R + 1.5 B + 0

I prefer the R + 1.5 versions. R + 2 looks too dark to me and R + 1 looks too light. Still not sure which looks best overall though. What do you think? Update in first post.

[Kogut]

I suggest R +1.5, B +0,5

[Pingaware]

I suggest R +1.5, B +0,5

Gotta say, I do agree with this

[zero.eight]

Thanks for testing Check the release thread for the latest version - I think the balance is better there. There's a lot less grey mixed into the red so Path tiles look more even. Brown tiles have been darkened and lost a small amount of detail, but it shouldn't be noticeable.

[Kogut]

Feedback welcome, especially suggestions on tiles to add.

- Fountains
- Grassy hills

[Chris]

Fountains would be great .

[ChillCore]

Nice sprities zero.eight.

Some stairs/ramps would be nice too.

[zero.eight]

v0.2.5

New tiles for testing.

• More variations for Italian Cypress (1x and 3x)
• New Station Class: "VAST: Statues and Fountains" and 2 fountains - more to come
• Callery Pear with 2 variations and seasonal changes - bright white flowers in early spring; brilliant red leaves in autumn
• Added seasonal changes to Hornbeams - leaves turn brown in winter
• Added ramps with 1 variation each to Paths - more variations to come
• Hornbeams are darker (when green) - better contrast with Callery Pear.

Grassy hills

Not sure what you mean by this. Tiles are drawn at the top of a hill and need foundations, so they won't look like hills. But there could be some small "hills" made as flat tiles. I will have a look at custom foundations as well.

Not a convincing hill

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[Kogut]

But there could be some small "hills" made as flat tiles

That is what I called "grassy hill"

[Chris]

Wow it looks even better than RollerCoaster Tycoon . Would try them out now but not enough time...

[Nite Owl]

Most impressive. I have added VAST to my list of must have grfs for every game I play. The idea of the sloping walkways works well for those stations that might be on a hill just slightly above the level of the town. In the past I always leveled the station down to the level of the town and now I can just ramp up to the station. Well done.

[Bob_Mackenzie]

I have it loaded for my current game

Maybe you could have "creeper" climbing up the vertical portions? Its a bit of a stark contrast with the garden at the moment.

I suspect it can't be too showy as I'm guessing that there is only one vertical sprite?

[edit]

Your formal gardens really cry out for a big fat stately home, or a chateau, to go with them

[Kogut]

Your formal gardens really cry out for a big fat stately home, or a chateau, to go with them

Try ECS (one of tourist centres)

[Kogut]

HQ Gardens during spring.
But why in placed marked with red circles there is no hedge?
And small request - is it possible to have trees with grass, not tiles on the ground?

[zero.eight]

But why in placed marked with red circles there is no hedge?

I was going to put something there, but then I didn't for some reason. I will put them back in

And small request - is it possible to have trees with grass, not tiles on the ground?

Like this?

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It can be done, but it causes a few problems that I haven't been able to solve nicely yet. But I will try to come up with something.

[Kogut]

I thought about using VAST grass. And not super necessary but nice: snow aware version (I prefer to have 1 new tile than 4 old with added snow).