Off peak tickets - does that include all weekend?

[audigex]

Hey guys

I'm buying some tickets to the london area for a couple of months time: 8th May specifically, but I don't know what the different tickets are.

What exactly is an off-peak ticket travelling through london? I'll be heading down on the saturday and back on the sunday, does that mean I'll be off peak no matter what time I travel?

Cheers

[JamieLei]

You'll have to check for the individual ticket. What's the journey exactly? Any ticket seller powered by WebTIS could tell you at a single glance, ie: the East Coast website

Off Peak doesn't always guarantee travel before 9.30am, even on longer distance journeys.

[audigex]

All the journeys I looked at said basically that it was available, so I'm going to presume it wouldn't offer me tickets I couldn't have?

Lancaster-Euston at about 20 to 8 on the saturday
The tube to Marylebone
Marlebone to Wembley arriving at about 11:30

Then the reverse leaving Wembley about 12:30 (or 13:30), arriving back in lancaster at about 6:30 (or 7:30)

[JamieLei]

In that case then I don't see why it shouldn't be available, if the fare comes up for that timed train

The National Routeing Guide says that the online booking engine trumps all

[Sacro]

SVR - OFF-PEAK R VWC
00000 - +ANY PERMITTED

1 Adult @£ 72.50 = £ 72.50
__________
£ 72.50

Standard Class Return

Restriction : 3A
These restrictions apply
Monday to Friday. By any train
on other days.

For traval TO or VIA:

London (including Luton
Airport Parkway, Luton, Milton
Keynes, Watford Junction and
Reading) but NOT Kings Cross &
Stevenage.
Code 1K applies for journeys
to/via Kings Cross & Stevenage


Outward Travel.
You may travel on any train
that is scheduled to ARRIVE:
London Euston :
At or after 1005
Milton Keynes Central:
At or after 1020
Watford Junction:
At or after 1020

Return Travel.
You may travel on any train
that is scheduled to DEPART:
London Euston :
At or after 0905
Milton Keynes Central:
At or after 0900
Watford Junction:
At or after 0900

No break of journey allowed on
outward travel, except to
change trains.

---

Given that you're going on a Saturday, should be valid at any time.

[JamieLei]

Hmmmm - why would anyone want to go via Stevenage and Kings Cross?!
Ohwait... - Dave Worley would!

[Dave]

Off-Peak tickets valid all weekend.

[audigex]

I wouldn't be going via Stevenage considering that's where the opposition will be coming from

Thanks though, that clears things up - we were just trying to work out if we had to avoid any specific trains.

[Dave]

Setanta Shield or whatever the Conference Cup is called now? You Barrow?

[audigex]

FA Trophy mate, Setanta Shield doesn't exist anymore - the trophy's way more important though. It's the FA Cup but for little teams

But yeah

[Dave]

Oh shag aye I saw Stevenage had gone through. I've been on a day out to Wembley with Albion in the semi-finals of the FA Cup (tears were had but whatev) and it's an amazing, brilliant experience. Just visiting the place is a warm feeling.

[Geo Ghost]

SVR - OFF-PEAK R VWC
00000 - +ANY PERMITTED

1 Adult @£ 72.50 = £ 72.50
__________
£ 72.50

That's quite a hefty price. Is that just one way or return?

I was looking at travelling from Stevo via London Kings Cross/Euston up to Crewe/Manchester way at one point and it only cost around £25 return.
Can you get a travel-card for London from where you are coming from?

And also, weekend is always off-peak. As far as I'm aware (from experience), peak times are Mon-Fri, between 7.30am(?) and 10am. Not sure about evening times but I know during weekdays morning peak time ends at 10.
Weekends have no peak times that I'm aware of. Or they certainly havn't when ever I've been on the train there.

And Jamie, are you suggesting there is something bad with Stevenage? heh

Edit:
Ended up looking out of curiosity and found it is indeed a lot for a return but two singles appear to bring the cost down to £40 withj the right combination of times.
Lancaster to Wembley Central (Via Wolverhampton & Watford Junction) - £26.50 - 3 hours, 48 mins
Wembley Central to Lancaster (Via London Euston) - £13.50 - 3 hours 11 mins.

[audigex]

Hmm, might have to look at refunding these tickets and getting that, thanks for the heads up!

[Dave]

Lancaster to Wembley Central (Via Wolverhampton & Watford Junction) - £26.50 - 3 hours, 48 mins
Wembley Central to Lancaster (Via London Euston) - £13.50 - 3 hours 11 mins.

The first one is with three changes and takes over 80 minutes longer than Lancaster-Euston direct.

Worth the extra 20 quid imo.

Lancaster-Wolves-Watford Junction is a pisstake haha.

[Sacro]

SVR - OFF-PEAK R VWC
00000 - +ANY PERMITTED

1 Adult @£ 72.50 = £ 72.50
__________
£ 72.50

That's quite a hefty price. Is that just one way or return?

SaVer Return

[Geo Ghost]

Ah so that's what SVR stands for.

For some reason I thought Sacro was asking about it and not audigex.
Shows how awake I am at times heh.

[JamieLei]

To be fair - they've now all been renamed, but for some reason, the codes haven't...

SVR = Off Peak Return
CDR = Off Peak Day Return
CDS = Off Peak Day Single
SOR = Anytime Return
SDR = Anytime Day Return
SOS = Anytime Single*
SDS = Anytime Day Single*

*Do these two tickets exist?...
I also remember buying a Standard Open Single once (Castle Cary -> Birmingham New Street) but I also remember buying an Standard Day Single for shorter journeys, so therefore what would be the difference?

[JGR]

*Do these two tickets exist?...

Well I have an Anytime Day Single ticket for Wakefield to Sheffield on the 30th March sitting in the other room, so I assume at least one of them exists...

[Dave]

To be fair - they've now all been renamed, but for some reason, the codes haven't...

SVR = Off Peak Return
CDR = Off Peak Day Return
CDS = Off Peak Day Single
SOR = Anytime Return
SDR = Anytime Day Return
SOS = Anytime Single*
SDS = Anytime Day Single*

*Do these two tickets exist?...
I also remember buying a Standard Open Single once (Castle Cary -> Birmingham New Street) but I also remember buying an Standard Day Single for shorter journeys, so therefore what would be the difference?

You're correct.