Making helicopters more usefull

[onsympatico]

I noticed there's a limit of 2 airports per city, I'd like suggest not to add Heliports (the 1 tile one) to the airport limit. That way helicopters have a distinct use as opposed to now where they get beaten by any vehicle on every front (oil-platform ->hovercraft, airports -> any plane)

Add another helicopter type, a carry-all which transports goods

[belugas]

The removal of airport numbers restriction is not a new suggestion.
There is work been started on it. It will not be simple limit removal. More a different type of limit, based on conditions, where you would be able to adjust the number of airports per town based on the type of airports. It's a bit like the moreairpots feature in TTDP.
And no, there is no date nor estimation as to when it will hit trunk.
Somewhere after 0.6, for sure

[onsympatico]

First of all, Hi and thanks for responding

Second: The airport limit might have it's uses (seeing as how profitable airplanes are). What I'm, humbly, trying to enforce is a reason to use helicopters.

Third: Airplanes seem to be a little bit too rewarding, removing the limit might make 'em go over the top.

Ofcourse, the final decision (if any) is up to you, seeing as you have way more insight in the problem and, being a programmer myself, I'm fully aware of the problems one might run into changing even the simplest of things.

[belugas]

First of all, Hi and thanks for responding

Hello to yu too and welcome in this humble forum

Second: The airport limit might have it's uses (seeing as how profitable airplanes are). What I'm, humbly, trying to enforce is a reason to use helicopters.

In a certain way, the new proposed feature could do that. You see, it is based on the notion of noise. The bigger the airports, the noisier they are. And each town will have a certain tolerance to noise.
So, using heliports (which do not generate a lot of noise) only would allow to have more then 2 units per town. As an example : a town has a level of noise tolerance of 9. Each heliport has a noise level of 1. You could get 1 small airport (noise level of 2) and 7 heliports. Simple and efficient. I'm not the one who invented the concept, it's (did I said it already) coming from TTDPatch

being a programmer myself, I'm fully aware of the problems one might run into changing even the simplest of things.

If everyone had the same level of understanding as you ...

[onsympatico]

Sounds like an excellent idea! I'll look forward to it's implementation.
Btw nice job on the 0.6 beta. I didn't encounter any bugs so far.

Have fun!

[klayman]

Hi everyone,
First of all, I LOVE THIS GAME! and could spend weeks playing it. I live in NZ & if I could spread the word, I would

Just a couple of suggestions for future upgrades of the game:

More helicopters! I'm currently playing a game on 2072 & have a large fleet of helicopters I can't replace or upgrade. I think they are very useful & easy but the game needs more types of helicopters (chinooks, blackhawks etc), every more futuristic ones!

Anyway, I could go on for hours with suggestions. This is my first post, so I'll keep it short

Catch ya around!

[athanasios]

Welcome to the forums klayman!

[DaleStan]

Google for PlaneSet and Av8.

[WWTBAM]

Google for PlaneSet and Av8.

Actually GRFCrawler it.

[Hockey]

Can you fix the next pach so that helicopters is not removed after a certain time? I know of the "Vehicles never expire" option in the patch settings, but that leaves me with a ton of options.

Thanks for a great addition to the game. You deserve much credit for it.

[Klauzix]

Make new helicopters = yes..

If you play a game and reach the years about 2030-2050 you will se that there are no helicopters to buy. We need some high tech hellies

[belugas]

To Hockey and Klauzix:
It's possible to include new helicopters by using grfs, not modifying the code.
If you do not find any choppers worthy of your liking, the other option is to make those choppers and place them in a grf.
A lot of people can help you with that.

[Bilbo]

To Hockey and Klauzix:
It's possible to include new helicopters by using grfs, not modifying the code.
If you do not find any choppers worthy of your liking, the other option is to make those choppers and place them in a grf.
A lot of people can help you with that.

Well, problem with that approach is that you have to replace one of the original planes with a helicopter - there is limited amount of vehicle types

[DaleStan]

Just replace one of the toyland planes, and you'll probably never notice.

[Hockey]

The problem is when you reach year 2030-2050, the X2-helicopter disappears from the buy list and you cant buy new ones.

Is it possible to fix this?

[DaleStan]

Yes.

You've already asked that question, and it has already been answered. I recommend you re-read the thread.

[Hockey]

Can you include this in the next patch cause i got no idea how to manage grfs.

[DaleStan]

Then I recommend you learn. Because it isn't going to be included.

[belugas]

Can you include this in the next patch cause i got no idea how to manage grfs.

As Dalestan pointed, you should try to learn about grfs.
Try to search on grfcrawler, or even google.
We are not going to include anything new on releases (what you called patch) because we want people to be able to choose, and not simply swallow whatever is available, thus making one set looking better then the others. No way.
After all, grf is ther to allow you to make the game what you want it to be, so choose wisely.
The wiki is another good source of information: wiki.openttd.org

good search