[TTDP/OTTD] Ameecher's Screenshots

[beeb375]

Questions, questions!!! I have some!

1. Does that monstrous container train not get stuck behind the S-Bahn ones when they're stopped in those little stations?

2. How are you getting such large passenger and goods volumes? I never seem to be able to run goods trains that long, and those ICE's are massive!

[Ameecher]

1. Yes but it's minimal. It's also much less than if the train is routed via the main station. The advantage of the BR420 (the trains used on the S-Bahn) is that they are very quick at loading/unloading so they don't spend long at the stations and they have mental acceleration too. If anything the container train causes more problems.

2. Erm with a large catchment area. Since a large station in a city has a larger catchment area than a bus stop I remotely join busstops/lorrystops to increase the size of the catchment area. I also make some of the S-Bahn trains unload at Ratisbon. The long trains are also more for the stations at the end of their route because they have 3 or 4 thousand people waiting, that's how badly they are served...

[Raichase]

The advantage of the BR420 (the trains used on the S-Bahn) is that they are very quick at loading/unloading

For what it's worth, in the current version of the DBXL, anything in the salmon orange and white scheme unloads almost instantly. So the BR111 with the matching "local coaches" will also unload far more passengers "per tick" than the normal local coaches, which likewise load more passengers "per tick" than the long distance coaches. The advantage, of course, is that the long distance coaches hold more people

[Ameecher]

The advantage of the BR420 (the trains used on the S-Bahn) is that they are very quick at loading/unloading

For what it's worth, in the current version of the DBXL, anything in the salmon orange and white scheme unloads almost instantly. So the BR111 with the matching "local coaches" will also unload far more passengers "per tick" than the normal local coaches, which likewise load more passengers "per tick" than the long distance coaches. The advantage, of course, is that the long distance coaches hold more people

Indeed, hence why on longer distance S-Bahn trains I use the Salmon BR111s

[michael blunck]

BTW, there was an intense discussion about loading amounts in DBXL (0.82 and 0.9) and how to improve it (?) just recently in the german forums.

(only in german, o/c ...)

BTW, in 0.9 the 111 will be in "Lufthansa" livery as well, something like S-Bahn for longer distances ...

BTW2, is it only me or are URLs indeed hard to see here, nowadays?

regards
Michael

[Ameecher]

Well, In my opinion the loading amounts are good as they are, although perhaps slowing down the loading of local coaches a bit might not go amiss because currently I think they load 0 straight to 40 where I think, 0, 20, 40 might be an enhancement.

I've seen your screenshots of the lufthansa BR111, looks rather good. Was it just an advertising livery on Frankfurt Airport services or was this livery applied to other services to Airports and any other trains for that matter?

[michael blunck]

Was it just an advertising livery on Frankfurt Airport services or was this livery applied to other services to Airports and any other trains for that matter?

No, that wasn´t just an advertising livery, but more like the second alternative.

Between 1982 and 1993, the german carrier "Lufthansa" used trains to link the airports of Stuttgart and Düsseldorf with Frankfurt airport.

First trains used on the line Düsseldorf - Frankfurt were former DB´s ET403 ("Donald Duck") which the DB had decommissioned when introducing a novel two-class system for IC services.

http://www.travelnotes.de/rails/airpex/ex2.htm
(Historic Lufthansa postcard)

There were four trains each way per day.

Since 1990, Lufthansa also connected Stuttgart airport to Frankfurt. These trains were built by using BR111s and BR103s, also four trains each way per day. All those trains were in Lufthansa corporate design and could be used only in connection with a flight ticket. In fact, they were part of Lufthansa´s domestic flights, with the usual catering, staff, check-in, etc.

ATM, I have 111 and 103 in LH livery in v0.9. I´m still unsure about including the ET403 as well.

regards
Michael

[Ameecher]

Oh so the Lufthansa services were run as a private service as a opposed to a DB service in Lufthansa colours.

Re: the ET403. I've certainly seen prettier trains than that and the Donald Duck name is certainly appropriate. Is there going to be an ET403 in standard livery in v0.9?

On the whole, v0.9 is certainly sounding very promising and if I can help in any way don't hesitate to let me know

Thanks very much for the information, German Railways are very interesting and harbour a lot more variety than British ones.

[michael blunck]

[Lufthansa Airport Express]

Oh so the Lufthansa services were run as a private service as a opposed to a DB service in Lufthansa colours.

Yes, a private service, but the complete rolling stock had been leased from the DB.

Re: the ET403. I've certainly seen prettier trains than that and the Donald Duck name is certainly appropriate. Is there going to be an ET403 in standard livery in v0.9?

Well, there are people who like its shape. :8 OTOH, back in the late 70s, this train set offered cutting-edge technology with all axles drive, lightweight aluminum body, tilting system, etc. Some people still feel that is was silly from the DB to set it aside back then (it was thought to be too small for their new two-class "IC´79" scheme. Before 1979, IC services were only first class). OTOH, a good part of its technology was carried over to the other 403 (the ICE-3).

Re: ET403 in 0.9. I´m still unsure about this. On the one hand, there were only 4 (?) prototype train sets, so normally I shouldn´t include it, but OTOH, it´s a milestone in train technology and as such should be included anyway, although it couldn´t be used "realistically" in game, possibly.

On the whole, v0.9 is certainly sounding very promising and if I can help in any way don't hesitate to let me know

Hehe. I bet you´re applying for an alpha tester now?

Thanks very much for the information, German Railways are very interesting and harbour a lot more variety than British ones.

Well, yes. Although both railways have lost a lot since the 80s, sadly enough.

regards
Michael

[Ameecher]

On the whole, v0.9 is certainly sounding very promising and if I can help in any way don't hesitate to let me know

Hehe. I bet you´re applying for an alpha tester now?

I wish I could say you are wrong but then I can't. I've been rumbled!

Edit: With regard to including the ET403 in v0.9 as you say it deserves a place in the set considering how ground breaking it was, I'd count that as good enough reason for it to be in there.

[Raichase]

On the whole, v0.9 is certainly sounding very promising and if I can help in any way don't hesitate to let me know

Hehe. I bet you´re applying for an alpha tester now?

To be perfectly honest, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better to "advertise" the set before release - this would have to be the most followed thread here, with my favorite screenies in it.

[jvassie]

On the whole, v0.9 is certainly sounding very promising and if I can help in any way don't hesitate to let me know

Hehe. I bet you´re applying for an alpha tester now?

To be perfectly honest, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better to "advertise" the set before release - this would have to be the most followed thread here, with my favorite screenies in it.

You haven't seen my latest one i guess then?

[Ameecher]

6 new screenshots are a-coming.

1. The northern approach to the central station on the map. I high above the river and crossed by pairs of viaducts.

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2. Aachen, a town on the edge of Bremen and the main Oberhausen/Koblenz metropolis on the map. It is served by local trains from both cities as well as stopping mainline trains.

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3. The meanders in the river at Wilhelmshaven are how to thriving industry. Boats bring in wood and grain and take out goods. Trains bring in grain and transport goods all across the map.

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[Ameecher]

4. Bremen HBf showing the 5 platforms (1 of which can't be used, the eagle eyed of you will spot why!) The local platforms are located below ground level in a trench.

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5. Wuppertal HBf. Southern terminus with it's local lines.

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6. Map as of 1950. 75 trains, 12 ships, 40 road vehicles.

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[XeryusTC]

Gah, those screenshots are too nice . GIEV PBS, GIEV enhanced tunnels, GIEV custom bridgeheads. OpenTTD so needs the cool TTDP features .

Also, the platform that can't be used is one tile shorter than the others isn't it?

[Ameecher]

Also, the platform that can't be used is one tile shorter than the others isn't it?

That and the fact that trains can't actually reach it, they can leave it, just not enter it. A design oversight that I've never rectified. When it gets busy I might fix it

Edit: By request from james, the whole town of Wilhelmshaven showing the 4 platform station to handle the traffic from the junction to the north of the town.

[Emperor Jake]

Nice work, I must say, Ameecher, I admire it's realisticness.

but could you tell me here you got that station in sreenshot 347?

[Badger]

Its not been released yet, its mph's new stations that Ameecher has been testing.

[Sir A. Boey]

Well Ameecher nice screenshots and I to was wondering about that station in screenshot "5. Wuppertal HBf. Southern terminus with it's local lines." nice very nice keep them comming those stunning screenshots

[michael blunck]

Edit: With regard to including the ET403 in v0.9 as you say it deserves a place in the set considering how ground breaking it was, I'd count that as good enough reason for it to be in there.

Well, OK. Here it is:

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See http://www.ttdpatch.de/et403_2.html

regards
Michael