Adjacent stations, again

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 13 May 2007 08:06

ok, this time is better than ever

what you can do, and what you can't:
- Build adjacent stations, also adjacent to competitors' stations (with CTRL)
- Customise every tile, no more limited to non-adjacent tiles
- Use them as waypoints directly on the other station entrance
- You can't join at distance
- You can't extend a station to adjoin 2 stations, you have to rebuild the one you want to extend to do this, maybe i'll work on it but don't expect it soon
- Multiplayer safe

CMircea · Post by **CMircea** » 13 May 2007 08:45

Executable coming soon.

EDIT: It doesn't build the exe. Oh well...

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 13 May 2007 13:50

Never mind Desolator, Wolf01 has added one

Wolf, when you use these as waypoints, does it treatthe 2 stations on the same platform as if they were one? As in, if you have a waypoint on a 3 tile station, making a 4 tile platform, would a 4 tile train unload at normal rates, or as if it was at a 3 tile platform?

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » 13 May 2007 13:53

No, it'll just use the length of the platform it's unloading at, so 3 tiles long.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 13 May 2007 13:59

what do you think maedhros? is what you wanted to do? or you still need the fully adjoin behaviour (the ability to extend the stations in the adjoined area, chosing the station you want to extend between the two)?

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 13 May 2007 14:11

I think I'd rather see waypoints being able to be build over multiple lines than using adjacent stations. I usually like the waypoint graphics more for a waypoint than the station graphics.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 13 May 2007 14:14

XeryusTC wrote:I think I'd rather see waypoints being able to be build over multiple lines than using adjacent stations. I usually like the waypoint graphics more for a waypoint than the station graphics.

i asked for this, i was answered to use stations, so i started to develope the patch

you can always draw a waypoint graphics for newstations

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 13 May 2007 14:19

Wolf01 wrote:
XeryusTC wrote:I think I'd rather see waypoints being able to be build over multiple lines than using adjacent stations. I usually like the waypoint graphics more for a waypoint than the station graphics.
i asked for this, i was answered to use stations, so i started to develope the patch

you can always draw a waypoint graphics for newstations

The waypoints for newstations use "WAYP" as station class (prop 0x08), which makes them unable to accept/generate cargo and disallows trains from stopping at them in TTDPatch. Additionally they will appear in the waypoint build menu in OpenTTD and are thus not buildable as normal stations.
This way it is not possible to build "true" waypoints as multi lane waypoints in OTTD. That's why I would rather see that the waypoints are going to be fixed.

Post by **peter1138** » 13 May 2007 14:22

Hehe, you can always make waypoints appear in the station list. Just replace '1 << STAT_CLASS_WAYP' with '0' at src/rail_gui.cpp:883... They will behave just like normal stations, though.

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 13 May 2007 14:28

Maedhros wrote:No, it'll just use the length of the platform it's unloading at, so 3 tiles long.

Will it ever be possible to do this?

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 13 May 2007 17:41

here's another version, i extended this behaviour (the adjoin only) to all the stations types, so you are able to build 2 airports adjacent and roadstops too (very usefull in cities when there is enough space and the only suitable site is near an opponent)

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 13 May 2007 18:39

peter1138 wrote:Hehe, you can always make waypoints appear in the station list. Just replace '1 << STAT_CLASS_WAYP' with '0' at src/rail_gui.cpp:883... They will behave just like normal stations, though.

It doesn't work properly when using the original non-stop...

SyncViews · Post by **SyncViews** » 13 May 2007 19:59

...and roadstops too...

Since when were we not able to build bus/lorry stations next to eac hother anyway?
Every build of ottd ive played has let me do that.

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 13 May 2007 20:08

SyncViews wrote:
...and roadstops too...
Since when were we not able to build bus/lorry stations next to eac hother anyway?
Every build of ottd ive played has let me do that.

The point is that they're two different stations.

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 13 May 2007 20:08

I *think* he means next to opponents ones in this case.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 14 May 2007 17:10

Ben_K wrote:I *think* he means next to opponents ones in this case.

your ones too

MJS · Post by **MJS** » 14 May 2007 17:29

Why has the distant-join been removed? It's a ttdpatch feature that I miss a lot (and without it, I wouldn't want to switch to OTTD, no matter how promising the passenger destinations are...)

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 14 May 2007 19:22

MJS wrote:Why has the distant-join been removed? It's a ttdpatch feature that I miss a lot (and without it, I wouldn't want to switch to OTTD, no matter how promising the passenger destinations are...)

this is a totally new rewrite, i think is better to keep both the patches separate, so the chance to get it in trunk is higher

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 16 May 2007 19:58

so, there is somebody interested (Maedhros apart) on this patch? should I continue to develop it?

RainierWatcher · Post by **RainierWatcher** » 16 May 2007 21:33

It sounds good to me, I never understood why you can't build something next to another station anyway. Useful when space is cramped near a big production factory.

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