Game: Guess the train

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 06 Apr 2007 21:23

chevyrider wrote:Hi, builder Alsthom?

Yeah, that´s at least one point. (Not two)

Dave Worley wrote:India?

No, sorry, Dave. Not India again.

Rollo wrote:Country: Iraq
Railway co.: Iraq Republic Railway
Line: ?
Gauge: Standard
Type: Diesel Hydraulic
Builder: Tulomsas
Location: Turkey

Hi, Rollo. Interesting guess. But no, it´s neither Iraq nor a Tülomsas type DH12000 (or DH10000). Sorry.

regards
Michael

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 07 Apr 2007 00:02

Good one Michael. This loco looks something like a beat up Alco C415 crossed with a GE heavy centrecab. It's neither though

country: Cameroon
railway co.: Camrail
line: Central Line?
gauge: metre Gauge
type: BB 1100?
builder: Alsthom/MTE
location: Yaounde

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 07 Apr 2007 08:44

DanMacK wrote:country: Cameroon
railway co.: Camrail
line: Central Line?
gauge: metre Gauge
type: BB 1100?
builder: Alsthom/MTE
location: Yaounde

Yeah, this shows me that you found that single Cameroon Railways page on the net. Seems that all that african stuff gets too easy meanwhile ...

Good one Michael. This loco looks something like a beat up Alco C415 crossed with a GE heavy centrecab. It's neither though

Correct, this is a BB diesel-electric jointly built by Alsthom and the former "Société MTE", which at that time was a subsidy of Jeumont-Schneider and Creusot-Loire, and was later incorporated into Alsthom.

Just some more information about Cameroon´s Railways:

Until WWI, (parts of) Cameroon had been a German colony, named "Kamerun". The Germans built a couple of meter-gauge railways, namely

- the 160km long Manengu- or Northern Railway, financed and built by the "Kamerun-Eisenbahn-Gesellschaft" (see attachment) between 1906 and 1911, connecting Duala with the Manengu Mountains at Nkongsamba,

- the "Central Railway" ("Mittellandbahn"), connecting Duala with Njone, some 280km building beginning in 1908 and reaching Bidjoka, km 150, in december 1913, later reaching Yaoundé (Jaunde, see attachment).

Nevertheless, the oldest railway in Kamerun was a plantation railway for the "Westafrikanische Pflanzungsgesellschaft Victoria" (WAPV) on the southern slopes of Mount Cameroon. Of this railway, there´s still one small steamer in existence at Tiko, the "Governor Ebermaier", a 10 tonnes, 0-8-0 Orenstein & Koppel, built in 1914 (build no. 7720):

http://www.gouverneur-ebermaier.de/fotos.htm

Good work, Dan. Your turn again.

regards
Michael

Post by **Dave** » 07 Apr 2007 10:10

Fantastic insight

I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 07 Apr 2007 10:20

Dave Worley wrote:Fantastic insight I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!

Get him onto Zernebok Radio and make him do a 'Railway Hour'

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 07 Apr 2007 11:15

Thanks Michael, I've gotta come up with a really good one now.

I actually found it by looking for "Alsthom MLW" on Google Images. The unit looksed vaguely Alco to me from the frame up. It isn't, but it has similar features. Interesting looking locos, that's for sure. I'm on a hunt, I'll post later today/tonight.

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 07 Apr 2007 12:00

Dave Worley wrote:I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!

Thanks for your interest, Dave. I´m increasingly interested in railway history. It´s a fine synthesis of diverse technological, historical, economical and socio-cultural developments. I wonder where we were without railways.

And african railways are very interesting, especially because of their colonial background. Unfortunately, only a small number of rolling stock has survived and even good photographies are rare.

DanMacK wrote:I actually found it by looking for "Alsthom MLW" on Google Images.

Well, then you´ve been lucky, because only because there were some MLWs on that page, google showed you that special picture. And it´s not even the exact picture in question which shows up but a slightly different one:

http://www.trainweb.org/railphot/0972-05w.jpg

Hehe.

regards
Michael

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 07 Apr 2007 21:45

New loco

I'm looking for:

Engine Name: (1 point)
Designer: (1 point)
Country: (1 point)
Year Built (rebuilt): (1 point)
*Type of loco before rebuild: (2 points)
*Type of loco after rebuild: (2 points)

* By type I mean wheel arrangement.

Post by **Dave** » 07 Apr 2007 22:00

It's a boat!

jonnie47 · Post by **jonnie47** » 07 Apr 2007 22:46

lol looks like canada to me

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 07 Apr 2007 23:12

Nope, not Canada...

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 08 Apr 2007 01:42

Engine Name: 'Argentina'
Designer: L.D.Porta
Country: Argentina
Year Built (rebuilt): 1948
Type of loco before rebuild: 4-6-2
Type of loco after rebuild: 4-8-0

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 08 Apr 2007 08:24

Rollo wrote:Engine Name: 'Argentina'

Yeah, Rollo is right. The definitive site is here:

http://www.martynbane.co.uk/modernsteam ... na/arg.htm. I´ve considered the "Argentina" myself before, but in the end I thought it´d be too easy for us.

Nevertheless, I have a growing feeling that time zones begin to play a key role in posting/guessing trains ...

regards
Michael

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 10 Apr 2007 00:24

Nice one Rollo, as usual.

I think Michael's right. I thought the "Argentina" was sort of distinctive too, but ater Rollo got the Bermuda Railway so easily, I was at a loss, that one was my trump card

Looks like it's Rollo's turn and looks like I'm going to have to find another train

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 10 Apr 2007 01:22

Hi DanMacK

Thank you. The only clue i had was the badge and logo. It was not USA style as they were into Art Deco. So for me it had to be somewhere else but where

I found it eventually by typing "streamlined locomotives" into Google.
After about 7 pages a related graphic to the website Michael refered to caught my attention.

Clearly one of the excesses of the Peron Era.

I will post the new Guess shortly as i have one in mind.

ssbn742 · Post by **ssbn742** » 11 Apr 2007 19:27

post something amercan please, im only good at US trains (and know most of them).

jonnie47 · Post by **jonnie47** » 11 Apr 2007 20:39

no point in posting english everubody no them

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 11 Apr 2007 20:44

Possibly a german one this time?

regards
Michael

Post by **Dave** » 11 Apr 2007 21:41

I'm waiting for someone to post a British one that I completely overlook after all these times where I've gone "THAT LOOKS BRITISH!"

It will happen

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 11 Apr 2007 21:47

> I'm waiting for someone to post a British one that I completely overlook after all these times [...]

Well, Germany had and has a couple of very interesting "island railways" ...

http://www.inselbahn.de/images/wismar_21145_51.jpg
http://www.inselbahn.de/galerie/gal_ju3_005.jpg
http://www.inselbahn.de/galerie/gal_sp2_001.jpg
http://www.inselbahn.de/galerie/gal_ha2_004.jpg

http://www.inselbahn.de/galerie/gal_sy2_002.jpg

Rollo?

regards
Michael

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