Planeset newgrf

Alski · Post by **Alski** » 24 Oct 2006 22:13

first post here, so i'll start by saying; Hello! and great job with OTTD

i've been useing the Planeset newgrf (1), however it doesent appear to be the version i was looking for, i've seen screenshots of aircraft in-game that are listed in the development pages (2) that don't seem to be in the version i have.

i'm specificley looking for the patch or version that has more helicopers and the Bell V-22 Osprey, as i'm playing a lot of small maps right now where better VTOL aircraft would be usefull.

Can anyone tell me where to find the version that has these aircraft?

referances:
(1) http://www.as-st.com/ttd/planes/index.html
(2) http://www.as-st.com/ttd/planes/planes.html

Invisble · Post by **Invisble** » 24 Oct 2006 22:40

OK use the first link and go to the downloads page. Then download the windows version of the planeset and not the OTTD version (make sure you are running the latest nightly version of OTTD first).

Then adjust the openttd.cfg file to reflect the new grf file (should now look like this)

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 [newgrf]
 PlaneSetw.grf

and then have many happy returns playing with your helicopters

Alski · Post by **Alski** » 25 Oct 2006 15:03

Ahhh Excellent! Thank you very much

BlasterTransport · Post by **BlasterTransport** » 02 Nov 2006 21:39

Actually, to experience the planeset in full, try the MiniIN.
7007 seems pretty stable to me

OT: If you like the planeset, try pikkabird's AV8

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 02 Nov 2006 21:54

I'm told the PlaneSet works properly in the recent nightlies.

mart3p · Post by **mart3p** » 02 Nov 2006 21:58

BlasterTransport wrote:Actually, to experience the planeset in full, try the MiniIN.

"Actually", the MiniIN at one time had better Planeset support than the trunk. But now Cargo Subtypes/Livery Refits had been added to the trunk, its Planeset support is the same as the MiniIN.

BlasterTransport wrote:7007 seems pretty stable to me

The next version of the MiniIN should be even more stable, a few nasty bugs have been fixed.

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BlasterTransport · Post by **BlasterTransport** » 02 Nov 2006 23:13

About the bugs: What in the world is this? Not really a bug but it' very annoying

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 02 Nov 2006 23:38

I'm confused. That looks like a RV-related or orders-related bug, but it can't possibly be, seeing as how it was posted in a thread about the PlaneSet.

BlasterTransport · Post by **BlasterTransport** » 02 Nov 2006 23:50

Ya, I kow I was posting a bit off topic but at that moment, I was talking about the miniIN. Sorry for the confusion

PS. This bug is related to all vheicles, not just road. It's just that road vheicles are the most annoying seein as that I have 300 rvs

mart3p · Post by **mart3p** » 03 Nov 2006 11:12

BlasterTransport: Please post MiniIN problems in the MiniIN problems thread.

I have found the cause of your bug, it is a savegame version problem. New games work ok but savegames from previous MiniIN versions will give this problem.

Back on topic: the very best support available for Planeset in OTTD is the utf-8 branch. In addition to the trunk support for Planeset, the utf-8 code can display the livery names for the Ruslan in Cyrillic text.

Grigory1 · Post by **Grigory1** » 03 Nov 2006 11:58

mart3p
Not clearly with one letter "o"
Aeroflot-Аэрофлот

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 03 Nov 2006 14:31

And the "ф" (in Аэрофлот) is not an "ф" but "fi"(φ) -greek letter. The circle of "ф" is not complete and half of the vertical part is missing. That's how it looks like.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 03 Nov 2006 21:17

*checks his UTF-8 encoding*

http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/ ... f8-decoder reports that my bytes (D0 90 D1 8D D1 80 D0 BE D1 84 D0 BB C3 B3 D1 82 [0]) decode to:

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0410	CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER A
044D	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER E
0440	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ER
043E	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER O
0444	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EF
043B	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL
00F3	LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE
0442	CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER TE

As raw characters:

Аэрофлóт

Assuming that is correct, the acent is my fault, but the phi versus ef thing is not.

When I was doing my research, every place I found "Аэрофлóт" the "ó" was a Cyrillic small letter O followed by a combining acute accent. Since TTDPatch doesn't support combining characters, I used the closest thing I could find.

I've changed my local copy to contain a Cyrillic small letter O, instead of the Latin small letter O with acute.

[0] This is from the first string in sprite 28, for you NFO/newgrf people.

DarkFenX · Post by **DarkFenX** » 03 Nov 2006 22:18

Yeah... can't understand why gkirilov advised to use greek "phi" instead of cyr "ef" (full circle is 100% correct), maybe we just had misunderstood him

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 03 Nov 2006 22:38

If you're talking about his most recent post in this thread, I though he said that the character that is supposed to be an ef looks like a phi, and I agree.

DarkFenX · Post by **DarkFenX** » 03 Nov 2006 23:15

Yeah, about it... so, i was the slow one

Look at the picture in the attach...
1) Current OTTD utf-8 branch font draws full circle, as you can see (black)
2) Partially i can agree... about that 2 pixels marked with green on top of the middle "column". But it's not compulsory (so for me it's impossible to confuse "ef" w/o that 2 pxs with another english/cyrillic letter, and it's kinda unusual to find greek "phi" in game like TTD). Top part (relative to circle) of vertical section may be shorter than bottom one.
But all fonts on my PC utilize equal heights... tt. So, maybe, it's officially "right", but there won't be any problem with the understanding of the letter. And, at least for me, "right" way is ugly, so the best decision - 1px-height addition on top of the letter

Post by **peter1138** » 03 Nov 2006 23:20

Unfortunately PlaneSetw won't use unicode glyphs without a specific sprite font loaded.

Which is a shame, because when using FreeType it's not needed...

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 03 Nov 2006 23:26

*looks at DarkFen's location*
*knows Grigory's location*

I'll trust the Russians to know their alphabet.

I still think it looks like a phi, though. Then again, I can't find the difference between the Cyrillic and Latin 'o's either.

Peter: Is there any way I can detect that the OpenTTD in question has UTF-8 support? If so, I'll check for that too, and load the strings if either the GRF or libfreetype is available

DarkFenX · Post by **DarkFenX** » 03 Nov 2006 23:28

Could you tell me which system font utilizes OTTD? Can't find anything similiar

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 04 Nov 2006 00:28

DarkFenX wrote:Yeah... can't understand why gkirilov advised to use greek "phi" instead of cyr "ef" (full circle is 100% correct), maybe we just had misunderstood him

What I said might have been a little incorrect. The circe is complete but as DaleStan said it looks like the greek "phi"- φ. The difference can be cleary seen only with zoom.

The correct way to write the cyrillic is shown in the attachments.
One of them is a screenshot from word and the other one is what I think should look like in OTTD.

As for the "o", DaleStan, there is no difference between the english letter "o" and the cyrillic. So the "`" can be also removed. The capital and the small "o"s are also on the screenshot. (See also the http://www.aeroflot.ru/)

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