AI not buying any vehicles

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 10 Mar 2006 14:41

What could cause the AI from not buying any vehicles even though the AI built rails, depots, etc.?

I have these settings and grfs.

(attached)

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George · Post by **George** » 10 Mar 2006 14:50

Laibcoms wrote:What could cause the AI from not buying any vehicles even though the AI built rails, depots, etc.?
I have these settings and grfs.
PS. Searching seems to be useless, keywords for searching are almost in every very long topics Thus they all appear in the search results

Try to set aichoosechances to on. Let us know if it helps

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 10 Mar 2006 16:40

George wrote:
Laibcoms wrote:What could cause the AI from not buying any vehicles even though the AI built rails, depots, etc.?
I have these settings and grfs.
PS. Searching seems to be useless, keywords for searching are almost in every very long topics Thus they all appear in the search results
Try to set aichoosechances to on. Let us know if it helps

hi

Tried it, but still the same, the AI's aren't building/buying any vehicles.

Currently testing to see if the cause is some grf.

Oh, this started just today, which is weird coz I was playing fine with the same configuration and grfs before.

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 10 Mar 2006 23:54

I think I should post it here since it's an ECS bug more or less.

( http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... highlight= )

I think I found what's causing the AI problems.

It's the ECS (Extended cargo schema v1 alpha 1).

When I remove these:

newgrf/ECSTownw.grf
newgrf/ECSAgriw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasicw.grf
newgrf/ECSChemw.grf
newgrf/ECSConstw.grf
newgrf/ECSMachw.grf
newgrf/ECSWoodw.grf

The AIs buy new vehicles, be it airplane, train or rvs, but with ECS on, the AIs do not buy any vehicles.

Additionally, the AIs become really intelligent. I mean by that is, they build really good (with the setting of AI Intelligence set to High) vs with the ECS on, the AIs build as if the AI Intelligence is set to Low.

Now that's sad

TTD won't be the same without ECS on

George · Post by **George** » 11 Mar 2006 05:40

Laibcoms wrote:I think I should post it here since it's an ECS bug more or less. When I remove these:
newgrf/ECSTownw.grf
newgrf/ECSAgriw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasicw.grf
newgrf/ECSChemw.grf
newgrf/ECSConstw.grf
newgrf/ECSMachw.grf
newgrf/ECSWoodw.grf
The AIs buy new vehicles, be it airplane, train or rvs, but with ECS on, the AIs do not buy any vehicles.

You forgot to add ECSDVehw.grf

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 11 Mar 2006 05:48

George wrote:
Laibcoms wrote:I think I should post it here since it's an ECS bug more or less. When I remove these:
newgrf/ECSTownw.grf
newgrf/ECSAgriw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasicw.grf
newgrf/ECSChemw.grf
newgrf/ECSConstw.grf
newgrf/ECSMachw.grf
newgrf/ECSWoodw.grf
The AIs buy new vehicles, be it airplane, train or rvs, but with ECS on, the AIs do not buy any vehicles.
You forgot to add ECSDVehw.grf

Ah I see. It wasn't on the ECS Download site ( http://george.zernebok.net/newgrf/downloads.html ), but I got it anyways, checked out if the folders are browsable.

Thanks!
I'll test it again.

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 12 Mar 2006 09:15

Update:

Sadly, still not working. The AIs are still not buying any type of vehicles.

Sigh, it's really very different playing w/o ECS

there's no challenge w/o it. ^_^

Another Update:
Something I noticed, the AI's only buy a few vehicles from the Airport.
If RV or Trains, the AI's do not buy any vehicles.

George · Post by **George** » 12 Mar 2006 12:05

Laibcoms wrote:Update:
Sadly, still not working. The AIs are still not buying any type of vehicles.
Sigh, it's really very different playing w/o ECS there's no challenge w/o it. ^_^
Another Update:
Something I noticed, the AI's only buy a few vehicles from the Airport.
If RV or Trains, the AI's do not buy any vehicles.

What year? Post the savegame and configs.

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 13 Mar 2006 03:49

I don't have the previous games anymore.
Though some improvements, I found that there are grf's conflicting with ECS. I disabled those grfs and ECS is working fine so far.

The latest problem I noticed tho is the intelligence of the AIs.

Setting:
AI Intelligence = High

Problem:
1) AI is acting like it's Intelligence seting is "Low".
2) Favors Airports first, then Trains. Only buys RV/Trams sometime 1980s but only 1 company bought RVs (in the attached game).

Another problem:
1) Blimp vehicle for Airport = AI's can buy blimps anytime but I, the real-player can only buy blimps sometime 1940s. Start date set to 1930.

ttdpatch.cfg
aichoosechances on

Files are attached.

George · Post by **George** » 13 Mar 2006 05:08

Laibcoms wrote:I don't have the previous games anymore.

I’ve tried to start your save game, but it crashes for me. I do not have a half of grf files from your newgrf.cfg. So, I suggest you to create a short newgrf.cfg, set start year to 1950, generate a new RANDOM game and test, if AI can build anything.
newgrf/ECSTownw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasicw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasArw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasTrw.grf
newgrf/ECSChemw.grf
newgrf/ECSMachw.grf
newgrf/ECSMacTrw.grf
newgrf/ECSWoodw.grf
newgrf/ECSConstw.grf
newgrf/ECSAgriw.grf
newgrf/4LVw.grf
newgrf/4LVCutw.grf !
newgrf/ECSDVehw.grf
newgrf/planesetw.grf
newgrf/newshipsw.grf
newgrf/ttrs2w.grf
newgrf/TTRS3w.grf

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 13 Mar 2006 07:59

Here are the 2 tests I did.

All seems fine. The AIs are buying vehicles.
Tho, when it comes to RV, they buy the Tram Vehicle only (or give priority to Trams) which is actually similar to when Electrified Railways available, the AIs prioritize or only build erails.

The first AI always build Airport/Aircrafts.
Then Train or RV.

I used the newgrf list you provided with the year set to 1950.

George · Post by **George** » 13 Mar 2006 21:43

Laibcoms wrote:Here are the 2 tests I did.
All seems fine. The AIs are buying vehicles.
Tho, when it comes to RV, they buy the Tram Vehicle only (or give priority to Trams) which is actually similar to when Electrified Railways available, the AIs prioritize or only build erails.

No, it is the other issue. I'll fix tram bug tomorrow.

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 14 Mar 2006 01:44

George wrote:
Laibcoms wrote:Here are the 2 tests I did.
All seems fine. The AIs are buying vehicles.
Tho, when it comes to RV, they buy the Tram Vehicle only (or give priority to Trams) which is actually similar to when Electrified Railways available, the AIs prioritize or only build erails.
No, it is the other issue. I'll fix tram bug tomorrow.

Umm, other issue, didn't quiet get it ^_^
Anyways, the AIs buying only Electrified Railways (if it's turned on) is the same as the tram? (Tho I don't know who created the erails.)

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 14 Mar 2006 05:17

It depends of set. Trams are road vehicles, don't mix them with trains.

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 14 Mar 2006 05:25

Wile E. Coyote wrote:It depends of set. Trams are road vehicles, don't mix them with trains.

Yah, what I meant was the 'problem'.

Coz the AIs are only buying erails
same as
the AIs only buying Trams

so, could it be the a bug or a conflict somewhere? The problem is similar, though the other one is railroads/trains while the other is RV/Trams.

stevenh · Post by **stevenh** » 14 Mar 2006 06:19

Are you trying to tell me that my Trams are being bought by your AI?
This is not good.

George · Post by **George** » 14 Mar 2006 06:39

stevenh wrote:Are you trying to tell me that my Trams are being bought by your AI? This is not good.

I suppose with ID 47, because I accidentally marked as first ID for trucks (should be 48 ).

Laibcoms · Post by **Laibcoms** » 14 Mar 2006 06:41

stevenh wrote:Are you trying to tell me that my Trams are being bought by your AI?
This is not good.

Still can't tell though. George did said that he'll fix the "Tram bug" (a few replies above).

And I don't know what "your" Trams are ^_^

My newgrfw.cfg
newgrf/ECSTownw.grf
newgrf/ECSBasicw.grf
newgrf/ECSChemw.grf
newgrf/ECSMachw.grf
newgrf/ECSWoodw.grf
newgrf/ECSConstw.grf
newgrf/ECSAgriw.grf
newgrf/4LVw.grf
newgrf/ECSDVehw.grf
newgrf/PlaneSetw.grf
newgrf/newshipsw.grf
newgrf/ttrs2w.grf
newgrf/TTRS3w.grf

As per George's instructions so he can check the problems (with year set to 1950s).

There's a savedgame attached to one of my post above (the most recent attachment), one of the savedgame shows the AI's buying only Trams.

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