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harrydouthwaite · Post by **harrydouthwaite** » 27 Nov 2005 00:22

Isn't there anyway to make the ship slots in TTDPatch rise? I would like a few more in there, and of course, I might create some myself, but I need an alpha/beta version that allows 20 slots for ships.
Possible? Or Impossible?

Post by **PikkaBird** » 27 Nov 2005 00:25

There are only 255 vehicle slots available in total, so to add more ships you'd have to take some slots away from another vehicle class (which would break pretty much everything).

I'd chalk this one up as impossible, I'm afraid.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 28 Nov 2005 02:38

I don't think that the trouble is so much the 255 limit, because the RVs really have more slots that they need and you could grab some of those. I think it's more fundamental than that. This is one of the oldest requests, and I doubt it will ever take place.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 28 Nov 2005 08:44

The vehicle class id ranges are fixed.

harrydouthwaite · Post by **harrydouthwaite** » 30 Nov 2005 00:42

Can't you raise the total number of slots in the game from 255 to 300?

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 30 Nov 2005 00:44

I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count.

(Hint: If something this obvious hasn't been done yet, there must be a reason.)

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 Nov 2005 01:14

It'd be silly to only raise it by 45 anyway.

Might as well raise it to 2550 or something.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 30 Nov 2005 03:02

krtaylor wrote:Might as well raise it to 2550 or something.

That's still not a sensible number; 255 is one byte. If you changed the vehicle ID structure so it was two bytes*, you'd get 65535 possible vehicle IDs.

*not going to happen, so don't get excited.

Edit: actually, it's 256 and 65536, isn't it? since 00 is a valid vehicle ID.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 30 Nov 2005 03:13

Yes, it's 256.
Meaning we just raised it above 255 without even releasing a new TTDPatch version!

This has been suggested at least twice before, and was promptly shot down by patchman both times.
It appears (to this non-patch-coder) to be on the same order of difficulty as larger maps.

harrydouthwaite · Post by **harrydouthwaite** » 23 Jan 2006 03:18

Well, someone must have an Idea of how to make more slots for TTD?
If the file of all slots is 1 byte, then if you can make another, then it will double the number of slots from 256 to 512?

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 23 Jan 2006 03:19

If it were that easy, I'd have done it years ago.

harrydouthwaite · Post by **harrydouthwaite** » 23 Jan 2006 06:42

You know, I would like to see a resolution to double the number of slots for a vehicle, maybe Chris will know?

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 23 Jan 2006 06:50

/me wonders which "Chris" Harry is talking about.
There are nearly 30 of them.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 23 Jan 2006 17:05

OTOH, Lakie's new callback 36 will allow the updating of vehicle stats over time, which will effectively allow you to have quite different ships sharing the same vehicle slot.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » 23 Jan 2006 19:49

/me wonders which "Chris" Harry is talking about.
There are nearly 30 of them.

Sawyer maybe?

harrydouthwaite · Post by **harrydouthwaite** » 23 Jan 2006 23:51

Sawyer is exactly who I mean, he is the designer for the game after all...

Flamelord · Post by **Flamelord** » 24 Jan 2006 02:33

But not the patch. I've never understood why, exactly, it's so hard to change it to a word from a byte, but then, I'm probably oversimplifying the problem.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 24 Jan 2006 02:41

Because you'd need to change it in approximately 65422.7 places.

khamura · Post by **khamura** » 24 Jan 2006 07:02

.7?

How can you change a bit to a word to only 70%?

Flamelord · Post by **Flamelord** » 24 Jan 2006 07:15

And I suppose that it's not labeled uniquely enough to be able to use a Replace All function on in some way?

Yes, that would be the way of things, according to Murphy's Law.

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