3DTT - Debate now in session..............

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Graham Cox

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Post by Graham Cox »

On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:50:48 -0000, "Paul Wright" <ask...@for.it> Gave
forth this really invaluable piece of information:
and wahat about some ppl who hafta sit here, and listen to pointless drivel
about seting up 3dtt which they aren't interested in ithe slightest, like
eddie said, by doing it now, petes isp will carry it by the time it's big, i
can nearly garentee you'll need a group, just when do you accept it
What about killfiles? You could filter out all the 3dtt posts if you
don't want to read them. Or if, like me, you do like reading them you
can with no extra hassle.
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Graham Cox

Re: Against it, definitly

Post by Graham Cox »

On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:48:02 -0000, "Eddie Bernard"
<e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> Gave forth this really invaluable piece
of information:
Please look carefully at 3DTT. There is a *massive* difference between TTD
and 3DTT. The only thing is that the sequel has been influenced by it. 3DTT
uses the same concepts and principles, only to a much more detailed scale.
BTW, NG's, once created, can *never* be changed.
Yes they can. You can send an rmgroup message which basically means
that the group is to be removed. The problem is that quite a few
servers don't honour these.
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Paul Wright

Re: Against it, definitly

Post by Paul Wright »

once a group is put on the server it aint usully rmgrouped, unoless it was a
new group no really wanted,

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Graham Cox <cox_@_grahama99_._freeserve_._co_._uk> wrote in message
news:3874e07b.6507421@news.freeserve.co.uk...
: On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:48:02 -0000, "Eddie Bernard"
: <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> Gave forth this really invaluable piece
: of information:
:
: >Please look carefully at 3DTT. There is a *massive* difference between
TTD
: >and 3DTT. The only thing is that the sequel has been influenced by it.
3DTT
: >uses the same concepts and principles, only to a much more detailed
scale.
: >BTW, NG's, once created, can *never* be changed.
:
: Yes they can. You can send an rmgroup message which basically means
: that the group is to be removed. The problem is that quite a few
: servers don't honour these.
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Paul Wright

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Post by Paul Wright »

how do i kill files posts, i can't i can kill file ppl, not posts

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Graham Cox <cox_@_grahama99_._freeserve_._co_._uk> wrote in message
news:3873b55a.754394@news.freeserve.co.uk...
: On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:50:48 -0000, "Paul Wright" <ask...@for.it> Gave
: forth this really invaluable piece of information:
:
: >and wahat about some ppl who hafta sit here, and listen to pointless
drivel
: >about seting up 3dtt which they aren't interested in ithe slightest, like
: >eddie said, by doing it now, petes isp will carry it by the time it's
big, i
: >can nearly garentee you'll need a group, just when do you accept it
:
: What about killfiles? You could filter out all the 3dtt posts if you
: don't want to read them. Or if, like me, you do like reading them you
: can with no extra hassle.
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Sean

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Post by Sean »

Well, in OE, you can use a newsgroup filter: "If subject contains "3dtt" ,
then don't show in any newsgroup"

Anyway, I enjoy TT3D so I read the posts about it.

Paul Wright wrote in message ...
how do i kill files posts, i can't i can kill file ppl, not posts


What about killfiles? You could filter out all the 3dtt posts if you
don't want to read them. Or if, like me, you do like reading them you
can with no extra hassle.

Graham Cox
Paul Wright

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Post by Paul Wright »

well thats a msg rule, not a k.f duh!

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Sean <G...@gcasey.FR££$£RV£.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8584sd$47b$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
: Well, in OE, you can use a newsgroup filter: "If subject contains "3dtt" ,
: then don't show in any newsgroup"
:
: Anyway, I enjoy TT3D so I read the posts about it.
:
: Paul Wright wrote in message ...
: >how do i kill files posts, i can't i can kill file ppl, not posts
: >
: >
: >> What about killfiles? You could filter out all the 3dtt posts if you
: >> don't want to read them. Or if, like me, you do like reading them you
: >> can with no extra hassle.
: >>
: >> Graham Cox
:
:
Eddie Bernard

Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Eddie Bernard »

Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
you meaning me there eddie?
No.
Eddie Bernard

Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Eddie Bernard »

Rémi Denis <rden...@pop3.multi1mania2.com> wrote
Thanks.
There might be no problem with being understood :-)
but understanding is often difficult or even impossible for me
-( especially when English speaking people use references or words/word
spellings not in my little dictionary.
Aha! They, I think, are known as idioms.

Example:

to pour oil on troubled water
out of the frying pan and into the fire

Do you know what these ones mean?

Eddie
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Eddie Bernard

Re: Against it, definitly

Post by Eddie Bernard »

Graham Cox wrote
"Eddie Bernard"

Please look carefully at 3DTT. There is a *massive* difference between
TTD
and 3DTT. The only thing is that the sequel has been influenced by it.
3DTT
uses the same concepts and principles, only to a much more detailed
scale.
BTW, NG's, once created, can *never* be changed.

Yes they can. You can send an rmgroup message which basically means
that the group is to be removed. The problem is that quite a few
servers don't honour these.
Yes. Removed from the news servers, but *not* delete the group. The
difference being that if the group is deleted, it goes out of existence. If
it is removed off a server, it still exists, just that no one carries it. An
rmgroup is asking news admins to remove the group from the server. I said,
NG's can never be changed...and this is true. News admins tend to ignore
rmgroups anyway.

Eddie
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Rick McGreal

Re: Against it, definitly

Post by Rick McGreal »

Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote in message
news:s7cdici8oj8175@corp.supernews.com...
alright:
WHY IS THIS GROUP BORING???????/
hows that?
Better.......But the content could still do with more *Umph*........

<Ahem>.....And where is my buttered muffin?

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Rick McGreal

Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Rick McGreal »

Bill Hayles <bill...@ctv.es> wrote in message
news:38790d75.27166726@enews.newsguy.com...

<Snip-Snip>
I learnt Spanish by declension and conjugation. Given a Spanish
infinitive, I can probably give you the gerund or the past participle.
Whether I know what the verb means is another matter!
I must admit that altho' I'm not totally thick I have NO IDEA what you just
said......Maybe its just me........I can do maths well......Languages I just
have no ability with B-(
I am well known as a pedant when it comes to matters of grammar.
What....Like you hang on clothes and look glitsy? (Sorry couldn't resist)
Constructions such as "if it was me" instead of "if it were me", or
"different to" rather than "different from" ("different" is as ablative
an adjective as can be imagined) annoy me. Perhaps they shouldn't;
My wife gets REALLY annoyed with people that don't know the difference
between 'there', they're' and 'their'
I've known her to have to leave the room.......I feel she has a problem.....
maybe my less than perfect typing annoys others - I'm not perfect! What
is worse is that very often, those who use such phrases don't even
realise they are wrong.
I do that...I just type what I 'say' in my head....To me it sounds
right....But to others they read what I have written, NOT what I
wrote....(If you get my gist)
When I was at school, I was given a thorough grounding in language
construction and grammar, and I learnt Latin. This skills have stood me
in good stead over the years and although I found them boring at the
time I'm very thankful that I learnt them.
We (me) learn't English in, what I believe, was a terrible manner...We very
rarely read books in school, it was always text books, not real story
books.....I escaped school with a 'D'. And I don't believe anybody in my
class got higher than a 'C' Shame really

I wouldn't say all my posts have perfect spelling and grammar, but I try
my
best.
The standard of literacy in this group is first class, which is just one
of the many factors which make it a pleasure to read it.
Even with the way that a few of us clip sentences? I must admit that I have
a horrible tendency to put dots in to space out breathing gaps.......Like
this B-)
Are these still taught in schools? I get the impression that they
aren't, and if that is the case, how can people be blamed for not
knowing them!
I don't think its a case of 'Not being taught' but a case of not having the
time in the curicculum (sp?) to properly teach certain things...

My last year was the year that the new G.C.S.E.s were dragged in....And as a
result most of the people I wan't toi school with, lost out because there
was NO set standard to go by...No body knew what to teach us at the
time.......Most of the stuff we learn't wasn't in the test papers and a lot
of the questions were stuff we just skipped over.....

In the end I got a 'C' for my Math exam.......And I was in the top 1%
(Second place) of my year and I had no way to retake it.....(I got a job
straight out of school)

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Rick McGreal

Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Rick McGreal »

Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> wrote in message
news:855gvs$knq$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
At school, the teacher tried to learn us about past participles, to no
success.
This is the only problem I have with the schooling system....

You said 'learn us' I used to get really annoyed with our English teacher as
he said it aswell! It should be 'taught'
If the teachers don't understand English......What chance do we have?

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Rick McGreal

Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Rick McGreal »

Bill Hayles <bill...@ctv.es> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:05:36 -0000, "Eddie Bernard"
old man rant
Yay!!
Why won't they teach the kids of today properly. There's nothing wrong
with the kids. It's just that less is expected of them, their goals are
set lower, and they just aren't taught to the same level. If the
standard of literacy is declining (and I think it is), it's NOT the
fault of those who are learning, but of those who are failing to teach
/old man rant
I think that the problem is that they are taught to much...But they don't go
into detail....I have a friend that is studying to become a teacher and she
is astounded by the things that are taught and the things that are skipped
over.....The National Curriculum has just too much stuff in it that people
just don't NEED to be taught in school and other things that NEED to be
taught are left out.....

Any teachers in the house?
It's OK. I've taken my tablet. Normal inanities will be resumed
shortly.
Thanks.....But don't call me shortly in public..B-)

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Peter J. Dobrovka

[OT] Idioms (was Re: Against it, definitely)

Post by Peter J. Dobrovka »

Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht <858i3e$i5...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Rémi Denis <rden...@pop3.multi1mania2.com> wrote
Thanks.
There might be no problem with being understood :-)
but understanding is often difficult or even impossible for me
-( especially when English speaking people use references or words/word
spellings not in my little dictionary.

Aha! They, I think, are known as idioms.

Example:

to pour oil on troubled water
Hm. No, Don't know.
out of the frying pan and into the fire
Escaping from one trouble to stumble into another?

There is a German pendant: Vom Regen in die Traufe. Unfortunatley i miss a
word to translate completely: from the rain to <another wet thing>

Peter
Bill Hayles

Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Bill Hayles »

On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:47:36 GMT, "Rémi Denis"
<rden...@pop3.multi1mania2.com> wrote:
Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> a écrit dans le message :
Bill Hayes wrote:
Rémi and Peter, your English is just fine. You are both easily
understood. I know how hard it can be to write in a foreign language
newsgroup (I've dipped my toe into Spanish groups). Those who've only
ever tried to communicate in their own language just don't appreciate
the difficulties.

Thanks.
There might be no problem with being understood :-)
but understanding is often difficult or even impossible for me
-( especially when English speaking people use references or words/word
spellings not in my little dictionary.
I understand that. I have the same problem with Spanish. The trouble
comes with words that don't mean what you think they mean (figures of
speech).

For example, if I said I had toad in the hole for dinner, yesterday, you
might think my diet odd. But all the British would know I had sausages
in a batter pudding.

I know Eddie and a couple of the others speak a little Spanish. I
wonder what they would make of montañes cocidas or leones hervidos, both
of which I have enjoyed in the last week

I can understand it very easily. It is much better than even some English
people on Usenet can manage!

To my mind, it must be due to the fact that we use simple words in -quite-
simple sentences.
Yes. Maybe that is something the rest of us should copy.
I've got to go now. I've got to see a man about a dog.

From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es
Boudewijn Dijkstra

Re: [OT] Idioms (was Re: Against it, definitely)

Post by Boudewijn Dijkstra »

Peter J. Dobrovka <dobro...@t-online.de> schreef in berichtnieuws
858tt0$1r...@news07.btx.dtag.de...
Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht <858i3e$i5...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Rémi Denis <rden...@pop3.multi1mania2.com> wrote
Thanks.
There might be no problem with being understood :-)
but understanding is often difficult or even impossible for me
-( especially when English speaking people use references or words/word
spellings not in my little dictionary.

Aha! They, I think, are known as idioms.

Example:

to pour oil on troubled water

Hm. No, Don't know.
Something like carrying water to the sea or dripping on a hot plate?
out of the frying pan and into the fire

Escaping from one trouble to stumble into another?

There is a German pendant: Vom Regen in die Traufe. Unfortunatley i miss a
word to translate completely: from the rain to <another wet thing
This one is litterary translated the same in Dutch. It's:
"From the rain into the drop." or "Van de regen in de drup."
Sean Casey

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Post by Sean Casey »

Paul Wright wrote in message ...
well thats a msg rule, not a k.f duh!
I wouldn't know what a proper kill file is, because I use microsoft's
*wonderfull* OE4.
Eddie Bernard

Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Eddie Bernard »

Rick wrote
Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> wrote

At school, the teacher tried to learn us about past participles, to no
success.

This is the only problem I have with the schooling system....

You said 'learn us' I used to get really annoyed with our English teacher
as
he said it aswell! It should be 'taught'
If the teachers don't understand English......What chance do we have?
"Teach us" even. Present, rather than past tense.

Eddie
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Peter J. Dobrovka

Re: [OT] Idioms (was Re: Against it, definitely)

Post by Peter J. Dobrovka »

Boudewijn Dijkstra schrieb in Nachricht ...
Peter J. Dobrovka <dobro...@t-online.de> schreef in berichtnieuws
858tt0$1r...@news07.btx.dtag.de...
...
There is a German pendant: Vom Regen in die Traufe. Unfortunatley i miss
a
word to translate completely: from the rain to <another wet thing

This one is litterary translated the same in Dutch. It's:
"From the rain into the drop." or "Van de regen in de drup."
Drop?

Dutch and German are so close that we can call Dutch as a German accent. I
know the Dutch don't like this idea. But Germany is not one nation, it
consists of many tribes with similar language. The correct name of Germany
would be United States of Germany, currently there are 15 states within the
border with own parlament and laws. And only 200 years ago there were even
much more independent countries. Today we have Germany, Austria, Switzerland
and Netherlands but it is the same language and culture. Even the English
belong to this family. They derive from the angles and the saxons who
conquered the British island in early medieval.
I think most of you already noticed the amazing similarities in the English
and German language.

Peter
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Bill Hayles

Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Post by Bill Hayles »

On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:39:15 -0000, "Rick McGreal"
<tri...@transport-tycoon.co.uk> wrote:
If the teachers don't understand English......What chance do we have?
Maybe the teachers themselves weren't taught properly!


From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es
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