Political views

Wezz6400 · Post by **Wezz6400** » 25 Jan 2003 21:42

spaceman-spiff wrote:Hmm, bad and good, seems it's just like here
And Pim's list

They lost big time, from 26 to 8 seats in the parliament now.

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 26 Jan 2003 07:03

That's better, your country became un-rulable (hmm, this doesn't sound right)

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 26 Jan 2003 09:26

spaceman-spiff wrote:(hmm, this doesn't sound right)

But everone get it

Wezz6400 · Post by **Wezz6400** » 26 Jan 2003 12:27

spaceman-spiff wrote:That's better, your country became un-rulable (hmm, this doesn't sound right)

It sure did, but hey, those amateurs were in the government which fell the fastest in Dutch history and now they are so small they no longer can make a difference, even if they would be in a government. Only now the biggest party has gone nuts.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 26 Jan 2003 12:36

You can say about these "amateurs" what ever you like, but at least they had some guts.

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 27 Jan 2003 23:42

Wezz6400 wrote:Only now the biggest party has gone nuts.

What's happening, because i didn't follow the elections

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 27 Jan 2003 23:43

Rob wrote:You can say about these "amateurs" what ever you like, but at least they had some guts.

You can only wonder how things would have happened with Pimmetje
He had a certain charisma, better than what we have here in Belgium

gryvix · Post by **gryvix** » 28 Jan 2003 05:50

Pim is just a second Hitler.

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 28 Jan 2003 08:19

Correction, was
And off-course Stalin was the nicest man in the world

sultana · Post by **sultana** » 28 Jan 2003 08:26

Hehe, dutch politics, I have no idea what anyone's going on about

I would vote but I have no idea how to... I can select an option and press vote alright (for those of you who were wondering) but, which one does "democratic" fall into? (I think we're a democrocy... I'm not sure though).

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 28 Jan 2003 08:32

I think they are all possible in a good democracy, I mean good, but that's Utopia

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 28 Jan 2003 08:41

Are you sure we are talking about real world .. it sound like Civilization

RaptorTycoon · Post by **RaptorTycoon** » 28 Jan 2003 08:45

I'm centre-right, i cant vote yet... I would not even if i could. There are no party's that stand for what I stand for, well not really anyway. As for Pim he WAS a good person, well I think he was, I Still get sick whwn I see that picture of him shot. And he was NOT hitler2 as many people said, thats not posseble like in there was a black man in his party. I'm black myself and would have voted for him if i could, but now with him dead his party is f#cked up to say the least.

When I'm 18 i'll vote for "none of the above"

Thats best being that there actually all liars, and you have to chose between them. So I just won't.

sultana · Post by **sultana** » 28 Jan 2003 09:26

It does shadow

And what bonuses does the dutch government get for voting for whatever? food+2? An extra hero? Hehe

But does anyone know where an aussie like me should vote? (even though I'm under 18)... It woulda been much easier if you wrote the actual names of teh government

but that's just me

sordid · Post by **sordid** » 28 Jan 2003 09:41

raptortycoon wrote:I'm centre-right, i cant vote yet... I would not even if i could. There are no party's that stand for what I stand for, well not really anyway. As for Pim he WAS a good person, well I think he was, I Still get sick whwn I see that picture of him shot. And he was NOT hitler2 as many people said, thats not posseble like in there was a black man in his party. I'm black myself and would have voted for him if i could, but now with him dead his party is f#cked up to say the least.

When I'm 18 i'll vote for "none of the above"

Thats best being that there actually all liars, and you have to chose between them. So I just won't.

We had a party like that by the sounds here in Australia called "One Nation".

The party founder "Pauline Hanson" broke away from the center right party (the liberal party) because she believed Aboriginal people were getting too many government benefits and wasting it on alcahol and drugs amoungst other things (a common gripe of right wing partys).

The funny thing is that she technically wasn't racist because she didn't say racist things (depending on your point of view).. but she had ideas that didn't conform with our mostly centre politics style of government. I don't agree with what she had to say mainly because I believe in a balanced society with a minimum living standard, but she did raise issues that common people don't agree with because they don't understand our complex society.

What resulted in the end because she was uneducated (as a few right wing people are imo) is she eventually got fined millions of dollars for illegaly registering her political party. That and she got a trashing in government when her criticisms were raised.. most of it was dismissed because she didn't have a logical and rational way of debating these problems.

I think too often people pass off the right wing attitude as racism because its a stereotypical view of right wing attitudes. Right wing doesn't always mean evil and twistsed like Hitler.. same as left wing doesn't mean evil like Stalin. But those evil people end up in those kinds of partys because of their twisted views best corresponding with their kind of ideology.

If you want to read a few good books on this, go read Animal Farm and 1984 (mostly a negative opinion on Marx's ideas).

Anyone on either extreme doesn't belong in main stream politics if you ask me.

sultana · Post by **sultana** » 28 Jan 2003 09:49

Hehe the one nation party... I remeber that

Pauline Hanson aka. "Pauline Pantsdown" I have to admit I loved that song it was so funny at the time... but i was about 10 or 11 so...

But anyway thanks sordid... I can vote now

Centre if anyone was wondering

edit: I've been doing too much html lately... i keep spelling centre, center

sordid · Post by **sordid** » 28 Jan 2003 09:55

sultana wrote:Hehe the one nation party... I remeber that Pauline Hanson aka. "Pauline Pantsdown" I have to admit I loved that song it was so funny at the time... but i was about 10 or 11 so...

But anyway thanks sordid... I can vote now Centre if anyone was wondering

edit: I've been doing too much html lately... i keep spelling centre, center

Even funnier was the fact the transvestite that sang the song looked remarkably like Pauline Hanson

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 28 Jan 2003 10:48

Is this the one ?

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 28 Jan 2003 11:47

She scared me ....

sordid · Post by **sordid** » 28 Jan 2003 13:38

spaceman-spiff wrote:Is this the one ?

lol, yeah

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