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Omnislash · Post by **Omnislash** » 29 Dec 2002 19:32

My version is only 1.6mb!

Post by **orudge** » 30 Dec 2002 12:24

Ah, but does yours contain the original installation files, or is it just a zip of the installed files? Mine is the former. With the latter, you would probably be able to compress it better though.

Omnislash · Post by **Omnislash** » 31 Dec 2002 00:12

Why have the installation if its not needed. Much easier if you can just click on a file and it works. In most cases anyway.

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 31 Dec 2002 00:33

Thats the modern thing, what people want.

Post by **orudge** » 31 Dec 2002 12:21

Omnislash wrote:Why have the installation if its not needed. Much easier if you can just click on a file and it works. In most cases anyway.

Ah, but it's much nicer and more polished to have an installation program.

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 31 Dec 2002 12:27

If you can be bothered making it though.

Omnislash · Post by **Omnislash** » 31 Dec 2002 15:54

orudge wrote:
Omnislash wrote:Why have the installation if its not needed. Much easier if you can just click on a file and it works. In most cases anyway.
Ah, but it's much nicer and more polished to have an installation program.

That depends. Would people rather have a smaller download and no installaion. Or a bigger download with one!

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 31 Dec 2002 16:43

Well I suppose people who are beginners at computers want installation.
Experts don't. Better to have a choice.

Post by **orudge** » 01 Jan 2003 14:04

CombatGold1 wrote:Well I suppose people who are beginners at computers want installation.
Experts don't. Better to have a choice.

So you'd be quite happy to install Office XP or Windows XP without an installation program?

As I mentioned in another thread, I'm going to be using Windows Installer for my apps from now on. This doesn't add much to the download size (unlike InstallShield) - TTDAlter 4.0.9 is 1.85MB with Windows Installer, compared with 3.08MB with InstallShield! You may need to download Windows Installer first, but that's a one-off download. I've also integrated TTDAlter with Windows Installer in that before it tries to open TTDINFO.DAT, VEHINFO.DAT or the help file, it checks to see if they exist. If not, it tells Windows Installer, "Oi! You! Put back <blahblah.dat>. Now!", and it does.

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 01 Jan 2003 15:08

but you don't download Office XP do you. It's only small programs you download most of the time and all large programs have installations.

Post by **orudge** » 01 Jan 2003 15:46

Even so, which would you rather do:

1. Extract all the files in ttdalter-4.0.9.zip to a temporary folder.
2. Copy TTDALTER.EXE, TTDALTER.CHM, TTDINFO.DAT, VEHINFO.DAT, AMERICAN.DAT, ENGLISH.DAT, FRENCH.DAT, GERMAN.DAT, SPANISH.DAT, README.TXT and CHANGES.TXT to C:\Program Files\Owen Rudge\TTDAlter.

3. Copy MSVBVM60.DLL, OLEPRO32.DLL, COMDLG32.OCX, MSCOMCT2.OCX, MHINI32.OCX, MHRUN32.DLL, etc, to your WINDOWS\SYSTEM (or SYSTEM32) directory, ensuring you don't overwrite any older files.

3. Self-register all OCX files, etc. (Not strictly necessary though).

4. Add various entries to the registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Owen Rudge\InstalledSoftware\TTDAlter, etc).

OR:

1. Run SETUP.EXE.

I know which I'd prefer.

And think of uninstalling programs manually too...

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 01 Jan 2003 16:11

I'll go for installation.

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 02 Jan 2003 07:15

orudge wrote: Run SETUP.EXE.

Off-course, anyone who chooses the first is waisting your time Owen (and mine)

CombatGold1 · Post by **CombatGold1** » 02 Jan 2003 11:23

much time

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