Planeset [version 1.5.3 released 2006-10-24]

459 · Post by **459** » 10 Aug 2004 12:09

Suggestions for liveries:

A300: Lufthansa
A320: Air France
A321: Aer Lingus
A340-300: Cathay Pacific
BAe146: Lufthansa

Apart from Aer Lingus, they all look bit bland but whose livery doesn't look these days?

459 · Post by **459** » 10 Aug 2004 12:46

I'll give a try to fix the A340-300 colors and do that A340-600 based upon it. In worst case I may have to redo the entire A340-300.

SuperTycoon · Post by **SuperTycoon** » 10 Aug 2004 13:28

Is this better for the 727? i used the correct pallette, and livery, and i made the central engine air intake 2 pixels longer because it looked a bit small. As before, its modified from the origanal by 459 and RPharazon

[EDIT: Actually posted pic]

SuperTycoon · Post by **SuperTycoon** » 10 Aug 2004 13:49

where can i find the 747 sprites in my game directory so i can have a go at the united livery

[EDIT: Sorry doublr posted, won't do it again]

goalie · Post by **goalie** » 10 Aug 2004 13:53

bug in the latest beta one plane called b appears 7 times in the buy window
around the year 1970

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 14:02

@SuperTycoon - Your latest 727 looks much better. You can decode original game sprites using some of Owen's tools, but it's a pain. Can anyone here decode the original sprites for the TTD aircraft that are shown on my list, so they can be edited? Post them here and I'll grab them.

@459 - Can you please post your edited and altered sprite versions so I can grab them?

I have A340-300 in Virgin Atlantic livery, not Cathay Pacific - I really want Virgin in their somewhere. Can something else be Cathay?

We will NOT release the helicopter slots yet, I'm going to ask Patchman for more info. It may not all be documented.

@everybody - PLEASE post completed/altered sprites here so I can put them on the list. Otherwise we get confused.

scottishasttdx · Post by **scottishasttdx** » 10 Aug 2004 15:05

I'll get the 3 different british airways livery concordes to you pronto.
Also, what about an easyjet livery for the A300? I've always wanted an orange plane flying around.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 15:25

scottishasttdx wrote: Also, what about an easyjet livery for the A300? I've always wanted an orange plane flying around.

Sounds good to me. We need Lufthansa somewhere, but it's already got the BAe 146.

SuperTycoon · Post by **SuperTycoon** » 10 Aug 2004 15:26

Finished B727 in Eastern Airline Livery based on work by 459 and RPharazon
I'm now working on the b777 in British Airways Livery, i can either go for the new ba look, or th old one?

http://www.100megsfree4.com/yyzphotos/a ... ba777.html

OR

http://www.baworldcargo.com/photos/images/8e.jpg

which one?

scottishasttdx · Post by **scottishasttdx** » 10 Aug 2004 16:40

okay, here is the first concorde livery. Early BA, the first livery concorde actually wore for British Airways. (after a brief spell in the BOAC livery, but that was for the prototype version ONLY)

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 10 Aug 2004 16:54

you forgot to draw copmany name on the side .... and try find other view ... maybe there is something on the wings

SuperTycoon · Post by **SuperTycoon** » 10 Aug 2004 17:34

and the concord is white not silver

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 10 Aug 2004 17:39

SuperTycoon, well, maybe this wasn't cleaning for a few weeks

I think pure white would look quiet strange in TTD ... I prefer silver

scottishasttdx · Post by **scottishasttdx** » 10 Aug 2004 17:47

SHADOW-XIII wrote:you forgot to draw copmany name on the side .... and try find other view ... maybe there is something on the wings

SuperTycoon wrote:and the concord is white not silver

I do have another photograph of concorde (and from memory) and there has never been anything painted on the wings, they have always been plain. The company name I feel makes it look odd. If enough people say, I'll include it for comparison.
When I first touched up dinges concorde graphics, I tried lightening it a little, but it looked too glaring. This (as far as I can see) is the best comprimise.

Here is the next livery (trust me, the tail IS MEANT TO BE blue, sorry for the bad photo)

nilsi · Post by **nilsi** » 10 Aug 2004 18:02

If someone posts a good sideview I try to paint the LZ127 zeppelin.
I really would like to see it in the game.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 18:40

I really think these Concordes are coming out very nice. They ought to be white, not silver, as that's the way they really are.

For Zeppelin photos, I have reference links on my planes list page.

459 · Post by **459** » 10 Aug 2004 19:37

If A340-300 is Virgin Atlantic why not make the A340-600 Cathay Pacific since I think it was earlier supposed to be Virgin Atlantic?

I redrew the A340 based on scottishasttdx's original A340-300 and did the stretched A340-600. Both are now in the set. The latest set also has the 747-400 cc fixed (it's the upper 747, the lower is original TTD 747). Pictures attached.

That 727 livery looks nice. Just add the "company names" to diagonal sprites facing upwards and voilá! And even the palette is in 100% developer-friedly

I tried to draw Shorts 330 but for some reason it felt so repulsive to draw that I could only get two views to some kind of shape before I gave up. That plane is so small, weirdly-shaped (=hard to draw, I prefer airplanes vs. flying boxes) and, worst of all, in my eyes doesn't look like belonging into this set since Fokker F-27 seems superior in all aspects in my eyes. F-27 is available earlier, is slightly bigger, is faster, has very long model life and sprite creation would be very easy from Dash 8. Does anyone have anything to say in favor of Shorts 330 against Fokker F-27?

Somebody fix those Super Puma colors.

How to extract the in-game graphics: You need grfcodec and newbies will love the help of GRFWizard (grfcodec GUI). GRFWizard will help you through extracting the trg1r.pcx out from trg1r.grf in TTDWin main directory. See the stickies here in "Graphics" area for more info about those programs.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 19:55

459 wrote:If A340-300 is Virgin Atlantic why not make the A340-600 Cathay Pacific since I think it was earlier supposed to be Virgin Atlantic?

There is no A340-300 listed in the set. I have an A340, an A340-600 (currently listed as for VA), and an A340ST. Are you meaning that what I have listed as an A340, really is an A340-300? If so, I have no objection to one being Cathay, the other being Virgin. Which should be which? Does it matter? I don't know much about them.

459 wrote:The latest set also has the 747-400 cc fixed (it's the upper 747, the lower is original TTD 747). Pictures attached.

The original game 747 could stand some massaging anyway. Someone will need to repaint it as United. Also I think the dome shapes are off in some views. We had some troubles with that on the 747-400, but it ended up much better.

459 wrote:I tried to draw Shorts 330 but for some reason it felt so repulsive to draw that I could only get two views to some kind of shape before I gave up. That plane is so small, weirdly-shaped (=hard to draw, I prefer airplanes vs. flying boxes) and, worst of all, in my eyes doesn't look like belonging into this set since Fokker F-27 seems superior in all aspects in my eyes. F-27 is available earlier, is slightly bigger, is faster, has very long model life and sprite creation would be very easy from Dash 8. Does anyone have anything to say in favor of Shorts 330 against Fokker F-27?

The Fokker F-27 is not currently in the list. I added the Shorts because it is pretty small, and can be economically used to provide air service to smaller towns. The F-27 is larger. Also, the Shorts looks unique, unlike the Fokker which looks much like the Saab 2000m, Dash 8 and others. It's very common in the US, at least until recently; dunno about Europe. But we can discuss this, any other thoughts?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 19:59

For the BA 777, I'd say the new livery, since it is more common and will certainly be predominant over the life of the planes. Personally I prefer the old, but oh well.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 10 Aug 2004 20:08

Somebody wanted the A300 in EasyJet livery, but it would appear that there aren't any. At least airliners.net doesn't have a photo of it. Thoughts?

Is the current sprites of the DeHavilland Comet in company color? I think so but not sure.

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