Bundesbahn set [Planning & pasting - 2,13% done]

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 26 Jul 2004 13:02

@Lakie: yes, first the year, and then a random thingy. Examples: In the early nineties you will be able to build the white-orange livery, but it may (with many luck (I hope I can manage it)) happen, that you build one with the Munich airport livery. In the early seventies it's completely random if you get a white-blue or white-red ET-420 (I think that's correct).

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 26 Jul 2004 18:09

Cool.

Likes the sound of coding that...

Interesting to see how it turns out.

Georg · Post by **Georg** » 26 Jul 2004 21:10

Saskia wrote:In the early seventies it's completely random if you get a white-blue or white-red ET-420 (I think that's correct).

There were also (lots of) white-orange 420 in the 70ies: Munich originally had the white-blue trains whereas Stuttgart (and later "Rhein-Ruhr") got white-orange. Frankfurt was originally intended to have white-red 420, but there actually was only one white-red 420. All further 420 for the Frankfurt-S-Bahn were white-orange.

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 27 Jul 2004 11:57

Thank you for drawing, Singaporekid!

The engine looks good. May I also use (maybe modify) the large tank engine from your sig?

@Georg: Thanks, you are our official Livery Comissioner now *g* How do you suggest to distribute the liveries over time/randomness to match the original livery distribution best?

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 27 Jul 2004 12:35

Congratulations, u are the first person to notice my new sig!!
U can use any graphic from my sig as long as u don't say it's urs

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 27 Jul 2004 13:41

But anyway what do u want to use the tank steamer for?

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 27 Jul 2004 15:43

I really searched for posts where you say something about your sig

Of course your name will appear in the list of developers and in the GRF!

I need the tank as BR 86:
http://www.dlok.de/110.htm
http://www.kazmedia.de/bahn/br_86.html
http://www.bockholt-lokomotiven.de/en/mod/br_86.html
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~khmiska/br_86.htm

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 27 Jul 2004 17:29

I think this project could be merged with European Cargo Set (and make it Cargo and Passenger set)

Georg · Post by **Georg** » 27 Jul 2004 23:39

Saskia wrote:How do you suggest to distribute the liveries over time/randomness to match the original livery distribution best?

Hmm, a Suggestion:

1972 - 1974: Blue/White (Munich S-Bahn started in 1972)
1975 - 1977: Red/White (Frankfurt got it's first 420 in 1975, although officially the "S-Bahn" started in 1978)
1978 - 1991: Orange/White (Stuttgart S-Bahn started in 1978 and Orange/White-Trains were by then also common in Munich)
1992: Munich Airport Line-livery (Munich-Airport-Line opened in 1992)
1993 - 1996: Orange/White again
1997ff: Traffic Red

"Special" livery, e.g. trains with full advertising, could appear on random - though they should not appear too often.

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 28 Jul 2004 06:55

Who's gonna do the Br 86?

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 28 Jul 2004 08:20

singaporekid_92 wrote:Who's gonna do the Br 86?

The coding? me. The graphics? you!

or I just take your tank and make it a BR 86

@Georg: your scheme looks good, it will be used!

@Shadow: The cool thing is, that the player can choose which sets he will "merge" in his game. Cargo set and passenger set will be additional to a DB base set (and other countrie's base sets). Look here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=8004

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 29 Jul 2004 09:15

Can we add this? I think they said it was the fastest currently operating steam locomotive in the world

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 30 Jul 2004 11:06

There's a Problem with that. We already have the K.Bay.St.B. S 3/6, which will become DB BR 18.4 later. I can't make a DR 18.2 (East-Germany) from a DB 18.4 (West-Germany), because they have different technical data

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 30 Jul 2004 11:38

What about two seperate trains?

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 30 Jul 2004 12:14

That could be done, but the 18.2 was a East-German only engine

And I didn't want to mix up DB and DR (the East-German railway company), because I would need to add the double amount of engines. What about the BR 10 "black swan" instead?
http://www.blechbaer.de/images/maerkl37080.jpg
http://www.blechbaer.de/images/maerkl37082.jpg (design study)
http://www.blechbaer.de/images/000000940a10c0d6b.jpg (design study)
Technical data:
http://www.bics.be.schule.de/son/verkeh ... 010_01.htm

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 30 Jul 2004 12:33

There seems to be three liveries, i'll just have to draw all then..
I'll pause the Br 86 cause im too lazy

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 30 Jul 2004 13:42

Started the Br 10 in black livery

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 30 Jul 2004 20:44

singaporekid_92 wrote:I'll pause the Br 86 cause im too lazy

If this set it to work properly, you should really get one thing done at a time, and finish it completely, rather than having a bunch of half-finished graphics... Organisation people!

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 30 Jul 2004 23:59

I haven't started the Br 86 yet, besides, the Br 10 is much more interseting to draw

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 31 Jul 2004 02:23

Here's progress on br 10, I changed a few bits so the loco's smoke deflector and tender would blend

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