Abandoned railways?

MT3269 · Post by **MT3269** » 19 Jun 2004 11:54

This'd a good one for ppl into railway archaeology.

The tracks could be overgrown ,warped ,covered in weeds or even sold to another operator.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 19 Jun 2004 17:21

A good idea, could be used if a train doesn't go over any track your years on end.

MT3269 · Post by **MT3269** » 19 Jun 2004 19:43

I also think you should be able to abandon old locomotives or wagons ,they stay in your ownership but get deleted from the vehicle list and classified as derelict. And their physical condition deteriorates ,you can't start them unless you fix them which should cost big $. Tho all this'd demand new graphics.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 20 Jun 2004 09:53

good idea but only when AI will build normal railways (not-messed-up)

JenovaUK · Post by **JenovaUK** » 20 Jun 2004 16:06

Talking of railways, would it be possable to add a feature so that you could share railways, but if say company A uses company B's lines, A pays B say £5 for every square travelled and say £40 to stop at a station of a rival company. It would resemble real life where multiple companies use the one network.

It could be useful in network games.

MT3269 · Post by **MT3269** » 20 Jun 2004 17:11

You'd probably need ultra large maps for that ,and given the lack of development with bigmaps I can't see it happening just yet.

Also someone has to build the network which could take 30 years of game time!

If maps were big enough to where it'd take the train many hours to get to it's destination then it'd be worth the track access cost ,but for a minute of travel screw it.

JenovaUK · Post by **JenovaUK** » 20 Jun 2004 17:31

Why screw it? If you need access to a tightly-knit area of the map, albeit inside a city where the AI has a two lane track throught the city, with a cut off for a station, then I'd want my trains in that station! No matter now big the map. I'd rather have the center of a city than the edge.

Also, it could mean that in a network game rather than two or more complex networks there is just one. It saves space and money as you don't have the costs of tearing down hills etc..

Darkvater · Post by **Darkvater** » 20 Jun 2004 20:46

Like when playing a multiplayer game your opponent will ever allow you to use his most profiteable station inside the middle of a city

To get this to work, stations would have to be built and owned by towns...that would be a totally different game.

lucaspiller · Post by **lucaspiller** » 20 Jun 2004 22:33

In Railroad Tycoon you can do the track sharing thing but I don't think you can do the station sharing thing. If you did maybe you could get charged x% of the value of the cargo / passengers you pick up.

I think it could work but at the moment do you even want to use any AI lines? It would probably be ok for multiplayer games though.

JenovaUK · Post by **JenovaUK** » 23 Jun 2004 11:14

That's what I'm thinking for. And besides, there are a few people working on the AI engine, re-writing it so it should take a preference to networks rahter than single line rails.

lucaspiller · Post by **lucaspiller** » 23 Jun 2004 12:57

That would need a lot of work to make them design networks. They would have to be made to make the optimum route between A and B first. Maybe if the AI designed the route in its 'head' first then looked for ways it could be optimised. When it 'thinks' it has found a good route it starts to build it. This would also stop it building a long route to find that a player has a station in the way so both segments can't be joined together.

mike[F] · Post by **mike[F]** » 24 Jun 2004 16:58

Darkvater wrote:Like when playing a multiplayer game your opponent will ever allow you to use his most profiteable station inside the middle of a city

Well if they were guaranteed to get 20% of the profits, it might be better than forcing the other play to build their own station. Once they'd built their own, the company who refused to let them use their main station will be getting 0% of the profits..

Darkvater · Post by **Darkvater** » 24 Jun 2004 17:28

mike[F] wrote:
Darkvater wrote:Like when playing a multiplayer game your opponent will ever allow you to use his most profiteable station inside the middle of a city
Well if they were guaranteed to get 20% of the profits, it might be better than forcing the other play to build their own station. Once they'd built their own, the company who refused to let them use their main station will be getting 0% of the profits..

Well, you seem to be missing 2 very important points from your post:
1. to have the opponent build a profiteable station he must demolish 'half the city', thus causing ratings to massively plummet, and no passangers, etc. going to his station.
2. even if he manages to set up a decent station inside, you already have the upper edge and can keep your advantage by having a regular and appreciated service.

Thus you get a lot more profit, then only a measily 20%.

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