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krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 07 Apr 2004 17:02

eobet wrote: Oh, and Transport Tycoon Delux for Windows isn't really fully XP compatible, is it, so a good lawyer could probably argue fair use on this case.

Actually, it is completely NOT XP compatible, it simply doesn't work at all without the Patch. You are right, a good lawyer has many useful arguments and precedents, but the trouble is, who has the money for a good lawyer? Whether you win or lose, you still have to pay the lawyer.

Darkvater · Post by **Darkvater** » 07 Apr 2004 21:01

Well, I think we've all heard of legal aid. Since a lot of us don't make a lot of money, you can get a lawyer for as less as 60 EUR (one time payment). At least, that's what mine cost me (met toevoeging).

And if you win the case you can always get back about 60% of the costs of the trial, plus additional expenses.

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 07 Apr 2004 22:04

there a big difference between doing something legal and not getting sued...

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 08 Apr 2004 02:49

Darkvater wrote: And if you win the case you can always get back about 60% of the costs of the trial, plus additional expenses.

Depends on the country in which you are sued, and that isn't always the country you live in. European rules are funny, I think if you live in an EC country, you can be sued in any of the others and it will stick. I could be sued in Europe too but I'm an American and I don't own anything there, so it wouldn't accomplish much. But if somebody was mad at you, they could find the most cooperative (to them) European country, law, and judge, and sue you in that court. Like, a country that didn't have such a legal aid arrangement, and for which you weren't reimbursed if you won.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 08 Apr 2004 10:09

Drop the legal department discussion please. the game is 10 years old and these guys are just trying to improve it for use on OS's Like WINXp, and also make better gameplay. Drop The legal Discussion Please.

mike[F] · Post by **mike[F]** » 11 Apr 2004 15:39

It's all well and good saying 'drop the legal discussion' but if you get sued you can't just 'drop it'

CobraA1 · Post by **CobraA1** » 11 Apr 2004 21:29

But if somebody was mad at you, they could find the most cooperative (to them) European country, law, and judge, and sue you in that court.

Maybe, but I couldn't care less - they don't have jurisdition in the U.S.A., there would be no way to enforce anything. I'm certainly not going to fly over the Atlantic to show up in some European court, and there's no way they could make me. They'd still have to get the U.S. courts involved if they wanted to actually accomplish anything.

agent-wang · Post by **agent-wang** » 29 Apr 2004 06:23

[quote="krtaylor"]Actually, it is completely NOT XP compatible, it simply doesn't work at all without the Patch.[quote]

Not so. I used to run TTD-Win WITHOUT the patch on my XP box.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 29 Apr 2004 16:12

Huh. If so that's news to me.

CoolAsIce · Post by **CoolAsIce** » 29 Apr 2004 16:58

Great work. Ludde !! I envy your persistence !

I actually dared to checkout the code.
Its readable and the design is great....... how long did you work on this ?

I'm not an artist in C, becuz i only did C++ or any other oo like language, however it's so nicely structured even I can read it !

Bart · Post by **Bart** » 09 May 2004 20:19

krtaylor wrote:Huh. If so that's news to me.

Don't worry, there are a few ways to run TTD on XP without the Patch... me thinks of hacking TTD yourself, run an emulator, or having multiple versions of Windows on your computer...

stewis · Post by **stewis** » 12 May 2004 12:21

The game is not just the only legal thing you should be thinking about what about its name?

Transport Tycoon is im sure copyrighted to some one so calling this game "Open Transport Tycoon" would as i understand be violating the copyright?

but then im no lawyer so i could be wrong

mnorman · Post by **mnorman** » 12 May 2004 15:49

No, the code is copryrighted, and the name may be trademarked, although as no-one has sold anything under the 'Transport tycoon' trade name for some years then the trademark MAY have elapsed (although I wouldn't count on it.)

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 12 May 2004 16:11

If the game is called nothing but OpenTTD, without the T.T.D. being denoted as standing for anything in particular, I think you are safe, as long as they didn't also remember to trademark the abbreviation. Which I bet they didn't.

stewis · Post by **stewis** » 12 May 2004 18:21

http://www.openttd.com - the name of the game is at the top of the page which is stated as "Open Transport Tycoon" maybe this should be changed as a just in case.

mnorman wrote:No, the code is copryrighted, and the name may be trademarked, although as no-one has sold anything under the 'Transport tycoon' trade name for some years then the trademark MAY have elapsed (although I wouldn't count on it.)

as i said not a lawyer

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 12 May 2004 18:29

stewis wrote:http://www.openttd.com - the name of the game is at the top of the page which is stated as "Open Transport Tycoon" maybe this should be changed as a just in case.

Yes, definitely. For sure, "Transport Tycoon" is trademarked, this should be got rid of ASAP.

pasky · Post by **pasky** » 17 May 2004 21:15

mnorman wrote:No, the code is copryrighted, and the name may be trademarked, although as no-one has sold anything under the 'Transport tycoon' trade name for some years then the trademark MAY have elapsed (although I wouldn't count on it.)

Contrary to a copyright, trademark needs much more care from its holder.
Basically, to keep a trademark, you need to actively enforce its abiding,
otherwise you lose it. That is, you need to make sure your trademark is not
used without your permissions. Apparently Atari wasn't caring for a long time
about this at all, so I think we are perfectly safe in this regard. But IANAL.

DjArcas · Post by **DjArcas** » 24 May 2004 14:28

krtaylor wrote:If the game is called nothing but OpenTTD, without the T.T.D. being denoted as standing for anything in particular, I think you are safe, as long as they didn't also remember to trademark the abbreviation. Which I bet they didn't.

See - 'TDR 2000', because SCi wouldn't pay for the license to 'The Death Race 2000'

Gurluas2000 · Post by **Gurluas2000** » 21 Jun 2004 07:58

link not working.

rct101 · Post by **rct101** » 22 Jun 2004 04:33

Gurluas2000 wrote:link not working.

try http://www.openttd.com/

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