SerbianRailSet(ECS,PBI,FIRS&TouristSet compatible)&scenario

[railman]

New electric locomotives CRRC Zhuzhou ordered from serbian Nikola Tesla power station (TENT), take a look:
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/trac ... order.html

railfaneurope.net have some specs of this couple of locomotives too but not a photo yet:

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But if someone search in serbocroatian language maybe can find more things about...

[Wile E. Coyote]

Interesting news.

I'll search for some facts in the next few days, due to fact that I am in contact with mart3p and he is ready to code changes in future period.

[michael blunck]

railfaneurope.net have some specs of this couple of locomotives too but not a photo yet:

But if someone search in serbocroatian language maybe can find more things about...

Contract signing ceremony:
http://www.crrcgc.cc/g1733/s4283/t264924.aspx

Mr.Kang, a designer from CRRC ZELC, said the locomotive, with maximum operating speed of 140 KM, 7000kW power and tractive effort of 4500 tons on level and tangent track, would apply to standard track, be designed to comply with EN and TSI European standard. CRRC ZELC [Zhuzhou Locomotive Co., Ltd.; mb] will manufacture the locomotive based on its advanced design platform and rich experiences in overseas projects. [...]

So, probably like this?
http://www.crrcgc.cc/g5185/s12937/t264601.aspx
(for Uzbekistan, due 2016-03-01)

or this?
http://www.crrcgc.cc/g5185/s12937/t264600.aspx
(for Ethipia, due 2016-03-01)

regards
Michael

[Wile E. Coyote]

Probably more like Ethiopian, because Uzbekistan's locomotive is Bo-Bo axle arrangement.

Anyway, probably we'll know more in a next few days.

[michael blunck]

Probably like Ethiopian, because Uzbekistan's locomotive is Bo-Bo axle arrangement.

I think the loco for Uzbekistan is Bo'Bo'+Bo'Bo', resp (Bo-Bo) (Bo-Bo), like Soviet VL10.

But anyway, I think the bodies would be similar in shape.

regards
Michael

[michael blunck]

Probably like Ethiopian, because Uzbekistan's locomotive is Bo-Bo axle arrangement.

I think the loco for Uzbekistan is Bo'Bo'+Bo'Bo', resp (Bo-Bo) (Bo-Bo), like Soviet VL10.

But anyway, I think the bodies would be similar in shape.

regards
Michael

[Wile E. Coyote]

You're reacting fast, as always.

We'll see everything in near future. I even didn't know that purchasing of new locomotives is in progress.

[railman]

I am in contact with mart3p and he is ready to code changes in future period.

Before mart3p do code changes contact me for details. I already repaint the 441 TENT, 661 TENT, 644 spanka and most of the BMZ 667. I try to collect informations about what's locomotives are in use and whats are withdraw too.


I cant understand why the soviet build 667(TEM2) is withdraw This is one of the most reliable and durable locomotives around the word. Its an almost identical to the trustworthy ALCO RSD-1 locomotive. So it a mystery for me why this locomotives are withdraw today in Serbia.


Around 400kN effort and more than 9000-9500 hp means the new chinese locomotive will be a true monster

[Wile E. Coyote]

Of course, post everything you draw and/or every data you find.

I don't know about type 667 too. I wasn't so active in Serbian rail forum, but I'll try to find some facts there. Maybe it's also time to do new site for all Serbian sets. I'll contact Owen for that.

[railman]

Of course, post everything you draw and/or every data you find.

I don't know about type 667 too. I wasn't so active in Serbian rail forum, but I'll try to find some facts there. Maybe it's also time to do new site for all Serbian sets. I'll contact Owen for that.

Me, I never be member of any Serbian rail forum because i don't speak the serbocroatian language


Here some repaint locomotives with some new details too:

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I accept your criticism guys !

[Wile E. Coyote]

IMO shading could be better, you can't easy distinguish darker and lighter views. Try to use more darker tones for \ views. I sent you PM.

[Wile E. Coyote]

If we could believe this video (see last part), new locomotive for TENT should be HXD1D type, but CRRC site says this:

Line voltage 25kV, 50Hz
Wheel arrangement Co-Co
Transmission AC-DC-AC
Axle load 21 t
Traction power at wheel rim 7,200 kW
Max. Speed 160 km/h
Starting effort 420kN
Continuous effort 324 kN
Continuous speed 80 km/h
Application Passenger on main line

which is not in complying with data railman posted. Other candidate could be Type HXD1C, but its data also not complying with railman's data, and locomotive look is not like on model showed in video.

I'm in contact with people in railserbia forums, hope I'll know more in next few days.

[railman]

If we could believe this video (see last part), new locomotive for TENT should be HXD1D type, but CRRC site says this:

Line voltage 25kV, 50Hz
Wheel arrangement Co-Co
Transmission AC-DC-AC
Axle load 21 t
Traction power at wheel rim 7,200 kW
Max. Speed 160 km/h
Starting effort 420kN
Continuous effort 324 kN
Continuous speed 80 km/h
Application Passenger on main line

which is not in complying with data railman posted. Other candidate could be Type HXD1C, but its data also not complying with railman's data, and locomotive look is not like on model showed in video.

I'm in contact with people in railserbia forums, hope I'll know more in next few days.

This locomotive is not a freight locomotive but clearly for passenger services. The specifications say that of course: ¨Application Passenger on main line¨ and Max. Speed 160 km/h, the continuous effort is 324 kN, not to much but not little... But... It's a bad choice to purchase a passenger locomotive to hauling heavy coal/lignite trains, that's because this kind of locomotives are made for fast and light passengers wagons not for heavy ore-dumpers. Possibly not bad as a universal locomotive, hauling both passenger, mix and medium freight trains in mainline by ZS but they are not a good choice for the sort line of TENT industry. The Ethiopian and the Uzbek class is the proposal of the CRRC factory for heavy freight trains.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Yes, I forgot to bold "Passenger" (I did it now). But if you watched video, you've probably seen model which is HXD1D model, even in same colours. I doubt that they will make special locomotive just for TENT, because If I understood good whole story, they'll purchase only two locomotives in the beginning, and it's not known how many locomotives will be purchased in total.

[railman]

Yes, I forgot to bold "Passenger" (I did it now). But if you watched video, you've probably seen model which is HXD1D model, even in same colours. I doubt that they will make special locomotive just for TENT, because If I understood good whole story, they'll purchase only two locomotives in the beginning, and it's not known how many locomotives will be purchased in total.

Maybe TENT order a special version based in HXD1D, maybe the model is an indicative model... Who knows? No one yet. But we can waiting for that, nothing more...

[KSNA]

Hi, guys. What do you think about made for this NewGRF heavy cars from Blue Train ( http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/rs/car/salon/pix.html , http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/rs/car ... n/pix.html ) , locos from Blue Train without his cars makes me sad

[Wile E. Coyote]

Sorry for late reply, but I'm not visiting this forum often anymore. Years ago I had very good moments here, but some circumstances in my life in the last few years unfortunately turned me to other things...

Development on this set was stopped several years ago, but maybe I'll consider some ideas for making some Blue train carriages and new locomotives ordered by Serbian railways too. I couldn't promise nothing, because I'm too busy with other projects, but if I could find some time for drawing and somebody who will be in mood for coding, maybe something could be done.

Sad thing is that GM 666 locomotives, which once upon a time hauled Blue train, now are really used for hauling freight carriages. KM 761 locomotives are not in working condition (and I doubt that they ever will be), and Mavag 11 is on exibition in front of ex-railway station in Belgrade. It's not in driving condition too, and I'm afraid what they will do with it now, because old railway station is not in function, and new railway station is not build yet. Good thing is that most of carriages are well preserved and used for museum rides.