Slow ships down at locks

[Hyronymus]

Is it possible to slow ships down when entering a lock? Currently they move at their max speed while in reality they would even require to stop (I think that is impossible to code though). Locks could be regarded as bridges with a very low speed limit.

[ZxBiohazardZx]

and add lock-gates to the lock, default graphics all water would just flow through....

[romazoon]

I think you could achieve what your looking for by placing a buoy before and after the lock, then in your order list (the timetable part) will allow you to restrict speed from first bouey to the other (you need to place those buoy in your order list)

[Eddi]

... it would become possible to do this if objects get statemachines (similar to how aircraft are moved on an airport)

[Hyronymus]

... it would become possible to do this if objects get statemachines (similar to how aircraft are moved on an airport)

You mean invisible vehicles that move the aircraft around?

[Eddi]

... it would become possible to do this if objects get statemachines (similar to how aircraft are moved on an airport)

You mean invisible vehicles that move the aircraft around?

no, a Finite State Machine is a concept in theoretical computer science, not actual pieces of machinery

[Hyronymus]

... it would become possible to do this if objects get statemachines (similar to how aircraft are moved on an airport)

You mean invisible vehicles that move the aircraft around?

no, a Finite State Machine is a concept in theoretical computer science, not actual pieces of machinery

Thanks for the link, nerd .

[Eddi]

it has nothing to do with "nerdism". just if you want to talk to developers, then you need to know the language they are speaking.

Airports (in OpenTTD) already have this statemachine which limits the speed of the aircraft on the ground, and can stop it if necessary. there are proposals to allow NewGRFs to specify their own statemachines to change the movement patterns of airports, and there are also proposals to offer that same mechanism to ships and roadvehicles.

if you have all that, you can make a NewGRF which provides a lock where the ship enters at low speed, stops in the middle, raises/lowers to the other level, and moves out at low speed...

¿comprende?

[Hyronymus]

it has nothing to do with "nerdism". just if you want to talk to developers, then you need to know the language they are speaking.

Airports (in OpenTTD) already have this statemachine which limits the speed of the aircraft on the ground, and can stop it if necessary. there are proposals to allow NewGRFs to specify their own statemachines to change the movement patterns of airports, and there are also proposals to offer that same mechanism to ships and roadvehicles.

if you have all that, you can make a NewGRF which provides a lock where the ship enters at low speed, stops in the middle, raises/lowers to the other level, and moves out at low speed...

¿comprende?

Si senor. I don't see trains mentioned though, is there a reason for it?

[Eddi]

no particular reason, it's just that trains already have Everything(TM) (NewGRF stations in particular) while the other transportation types still need them. so even if you find a use case (e.g. small drawbridges) they would still be the lowest priority. also since the trains are already so deeply developed, it's going to be more complicated to integrate state machines.

[michael blunck]

Is it possible to slow ships down when entering a lock? Currently they move at their max speed while in reality they would even require to stop (I think that is impossible to code though). [...]

Don´t you remember TTDPatch?

Only in OTTD, ships are running max speed through locks, and even glide up/down a graded slope of water! Just silly.

Whereas in TTDPatch, ships enter the locks, then stop and are lifted/lowered vertically to their new height, and only then leave the lock.

So, it´s not even "possible", it is already in existence, however not in OTTD.

regards
Michael

[Hyronymus]

Is it possible to slow ships down when entering a lock? Currently they move at their max speed while in reality they would even require to stop (I think that is impossible to code though). [...]

Don´t you remember TTDPatch?

Only in OTTD, ships are running max speed through locks, and even glide up/down a graded slope of water! Just silly.

Whereas in TTDPatch, ships enter the locks, then stop and are lifted/lowered vertically to their new height, and only then leave the lock.

So, it´s not even "possible", it is already in existence, however not in OTTD.

regards
Michael

Sadly I don't recall that (anymore) Michael but it's good to know it's possible .

[Voyager One]

So... who's going to draw and code this?

Nice idea though.

[michael blunck]

So... who's going to draw and code this?

Nice idea though.

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regards
Michael

[J0anJosep]

So... who's going to draw and code this?

Nice idea though.

and add lock-gates to the lock, default graphics all water would just flow through....

I'm trying to write the code for locks with lock-gates. Trying.

[peter1138]

... picture of locks in TTDPatch ...

Is there anything that governs the speed of locks in TTDPatch?

[michael blunck]

... picture of locks in TTDPatch ...

Is there anything that governs the speed of locks in TTDPatch?

I don´t think so.

regards
Michael

[peter1138]

So something similar to this...

[Supercheese]

Yes, that's a definite improvement! It'd be even better with more appropriate lock graphics (gates and such), although I don't think there's a way to control the number of ships in a lock at the same time, nor a way to make gates open/close based on ship presence...

[andythenorth]

So something similar to this...

Neat. Is that a state machine that limits the number of ships in the lock? (/me hopes not )

Lock gates and crap are overkill.