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Kevo00 wrote:Just last year I went on a newly opened Delta route to Miami from Heathrow. The plane was virtually empty. Maybe it would be better to move routes to destinations like this to other London airports? Perhaps some of the BMI routes that this thread was originally about could be moved to Luton, Stansted or Southend, for instance.
Given that airlines (BA especially) prefer to consolidate flights at their hubs, how do you propose people from Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Manchester, etc, access these BA/bmi routes that would now be at Luton, Stansted or Southend? BA, of course, only fly to LHR, and in some cases LCY and LGW, from these airports. EasyJet or Ryanair may fly from some of these UK airports to the "cheapy" London airports, but you're not going to be able to buy a ticket combining a low cost carrier and BA, and buying two separate tickets would probably cost twice as much and be completely stupid. As such, all these people are just likely to connect through a European hub, such as Amsterdam.

Of course, for Londoners themselves, it may well be OK, but one should not forget about the rest of the UK (which, after all, contains more people than London itself).

Also, BA already operates from three London airports - adding more involves fairly significant costs unless the airports themselves are in some way willing to "assist" BA with a good deal.

I do get what you're meaning here, but at least as long as airlines want to operate hub systems, then you really do have to concentrate on one or two major hubs.
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Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:Schiphol may have more destinations to the UK than Heathrow, but I highly doubt that there's great demand for a Heathrow-Norwich route...
They use regional jets for that route
Well they don't because it doesn't exist.
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Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:Schiphol may have more destinations to the UK than Heathrow, but I highly doubt that there's great demand for a Heathrow-Norwich route...
They use regional jets for that route
So what?
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Alan Fry wrote:
Ameecher wrote:Well they don't because it doesn't exist.
They use Fokker 70 or Embraer E-190
Who cares? That doesn't mean that there's a need for a Heathrow-Norwich route.
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Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:Who cares? That doesn't mean that there's a need for a Heathrow-Norwich route.
Unless it is used as a feeder service for long haul flights
Somehow I doubt that that would in any way be profitable.
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Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:Who cares? That doesn't mean that there's a need for a Heathrow-Norwich route.
Unless it is used as a feeder service for long haul flights
That is the most ridiculous of your propositions yet.
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Ameecher wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:Who cares? That doesn't mean that there's a need for a Heathrow-Norwich route.
Unless it is used as a feeder service for long haul flights
That is the most ridiculous of your propositions yet.
More ridiculous than WWIII against Monaco? More ridiculous than fining us for unpaid taxes from a hundred years ago? More ridiculous than a 4tph Pendelino to Clacton? More ridiculous than turning the Isle of Sheppey into a massive airport?
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GurraJG wrote:
Ameecher wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:Unless it is used as a feeder service for long haul flights
That is the most ridiculous of your propositions yet.
More ridiculous than WWIII against Monaco? More ridiculous than fining us for unpaid taxes from a hundred years ago? More ridiculous than a 4tph Pendelino to Clacton? More ridiculous than turning the Isle of Sheppey into a massive airport?
Point taken.
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Alan Fry wrote:Look, my point is that our airports are not fit for purpose and for god sake can you stop making false claims about me...
These aren't false claims, these are all proposals that YOU HAVE PUT FORWARD!
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Alan Fry wrote:
Dave W wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:Look, my point is that our airports are not fit for purpose and for god sake can you stop making false claims about me...
These aren't false claims, these are all proposals that YOU HAVE PUT FORWARD!
Not the first 2...
1. You have proposed going to war with tax havens

2. You have proposed regular services to bizarre outlying commuter towns using express stock.
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Alan Fry wrote:It very unlikly that we will NOT have wars agaist Tax Havens becuase by then their would be so much civil unrest and economic decline, they would be forced to give in...
That makes no sense.
Alan Fry wrote:Also I have stated MORE Intercity services should use 390s!
Give him his due, he never actually suggested Pendelinos to Clacton. He did, however, suggest that InterCity 225 should serve Clacton.
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GurraJG wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:It very unlikly that we will NOT have wars agaist Tax Havens becuase by then their would be so much civil unrest and economic decline, they would be forced to give in...
That makes no sense.
Alan Fry wrote:Also I have stated MORE Intercity services should use 390s!
Give him his due, he never actually suggested Pendelinos to Clacton. He did, however, suggest that InterCity 225 should serve Clacton.
Which is an equally silly idea.
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Ameecher wrote:
GurraJG wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:It very unlikly that we will NOT have wars agaist Tax Havens becuase by then their would be so much civil unrest and economic decline, they would be forced to give in...
That makes no sense.
Alan Fry wrote:Also I have stated MORE Intercity services should use 390s!
Give him his due, he never actually suggested Pendelinos to Clacton. He did, however, suggest that InterCity 225 should serve Clacton.
Which is an equally silly idea.
Actually, I think his suggestion in the very same post to use InterCity 225's to serve Colchester Town station is even sillier.
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91+6 Mk4s would look spiffing I think. Would certainly accelerate like s*** off a shovel.
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Alan Fry wrote:
GurraJG wrote:
Alan Fry wrote:It very unlikly that we will NOT have wars agaist Tax Havens becuase by then their would be so much civil unrest and economic decline, they would be forced to give in...
That makes no sense.
Alan Fry wrote:Also I have stated MORE Intercity services should use 390s!
Give him his due, he never actually suggested Pendelinos to Clacton. He did, however, suggest that InterCity 225 should serve Clacton.
My point is that tax haven will give in before we end up going to war!
Or we have ridiculous sanctions placed on us before we ever even got near it.
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Alan Fry wrote:My point is that tax haven will give in before we end up going to war!
What makes you even think that we'd even be allowed to threaten them with war?
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So you'd like us to become an exiled state like North Korea, with every other major world power shunning us?
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orudge wrote:So you'd like us to become an exiled state like North Korea, with every other major world power shunning us?
All this, for the sake of re-opening Leuchars-St Andrews!
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Alan Fry wrote:We will not be allowed, then again since its coming from the UN...
Because, you know, everyone is the whole wide world will want to be in business with the country that invaded Monaco because of some people hadn't paid their full tax bill.
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Alan Fry wrote:The whole of Europe and North America will be involved...
And what if they don't want to participate in your insane scheme?
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