VTOL

[ccomley]

Am I missing something? i've scrolled through the Online Content list a few times, but I see no additional helicopter or other vtol options beyond the helos in the basic aircraft set - you know, the ones that go out of production just when you'd quite like to use them to service oil rigs or something...

Seems to me that by 2255 or whatever, there'll be quite a few VTOL options for running into small towns and remote locations as well as the bulk airliners. (THat's assuming there's any air transport at all when we have finished burning all the oil!

[PikkaBird]

av8 / Aviator's Aircraft Set has a lot more helicopters (including futuristic helicopters which aren't strictly "helicopters", but VTOL aircraft and airships).

[Eddi]

OT: we will never actually have "finished" burning all the oil. just that finding new sources of oil will get harder and harder, and the rate that it will be produced will plateau for a while and then start to drop. (it is currently widely debated whether we actually reached that plateau yet. i have not enough data to determine that)

eventually, the human energy consumption will be stabilizing at some fraction of the solar input power (nature uses at an order of 1%, so there is definitely some improvement to be had there). or mankind will die out.

[ccomley]

av8 / Aviator's Aircraft Set has a lot more helicopters (including futuristic helicopters which aren't strictly "helicopters", but VTOL aircraft and airships).

Thanks!

[ccomley]

OT: we will never actually have "finished" burning all the oil. just that finding new sources of oil will get harder and harder, and the rate that it will be produced will plateau for a while and then start to drop. (it is currently widely debated whether we actually reached that plateau yet. i have not enough data to determine that)

eventually, the human energy consumption will be stabilizing at some fraction of the solar input power (nature uses at an order of 1%, so there is definitely some improvement to be had there). or mankind will die out.

I daresay. But eventually, there will be so little left that it's impractical to extract it at ANY cost, and the first thing to go will be cheap air travel. And V8s.

[kamnet]

Or everybody start driving electric induction vehicles, powered by far-off nuclear power plants.

[leifbk]

Or maybe they'll go back to horse carriages, like my grandma believed.

[Eddi]

the earth's ecosystem can barely handle 7 mrd people, now you want to add 7 mrd horses as well?

if you ever have a chance to look how a 1900 city worked, you'd find they barely escaped a collapse with the advent of the automobile. horses s*** everywhere

[Transportman]

horses s*** everywhere

Cars do the same, only they do it in a gaseous phase and it spreads away from the street.

[Dave]

Have you just used the term milliard, Eddi!?

[leifbk]

Have you just used the term milliard, Eddi!?

That is what one thousand millions is called in civilised countries

[Baldy's Boss]

Have you just used the term milliard, Eddi!?

That is what one thousand millions is called in civilised countries

Sometimes that's inadequate...http://www.put.com/A/bignumb.html

[leifbk]

Massively off topic, but ...

George W. Bush once heard about a bus accident in South America, where "9 Brazilians were killed". After pondering this news item for a while, Dubya leaned over to his advisor and asked: "How much is one Brazillion, really?"