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spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 30 May 2003 16:06

What is IMO ?

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 30 May 2003 16:11

spaceman-spiff wrote:What is IMO ?

"In My Oppinion" i guess

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 30 May 2003 16:12

In My Opinion. Didn't you know that?

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 30 May 2003 16:14

SHADOW-XIII wrote:
Saiyan wrote:Maybe this has been requested or asked before, but could it be made possible to enable electrified railways INSTEAD of normal railways and keep BOTH the monorail and maglev lines? I really liked changing from railway to monorail to maglev. Gives me a feeling of constant development.
so developers must change unififedmaglev switch and add there possibility to convert normal trains (or create new switch for this)

IMO
if unified maglevs are off (or 'keep separate') and el.rails are on ... so then normal trains should be changed to electric ones

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BTW, why has a different track been created for elrails instead of simply replacing the original un-electrified rails with electrified ones?

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 30 May 2003 16:16

Arathorn wrote:In My Opinion. Didn't you know that?

Can't blame him, 'cuz its originally used as IMHO.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 30 May 2003 16:29

Saiyan wrote:
Arathorn wrote:In My Opinion. Didn't you know that?
Can't blame him, 'cuz its originally used as IMHO.

and what is IMHO ??

spaceman-spiff wrote:What is IMO ?

you are suprising me Spiff ... IMO/IMHO last days you are not yourself

Post by **orudge** » 30 May 2003 16:30

IMHO: In My Humble Opinion

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 May 2003 16:31

Having both electrified and non-electrified tracks adds a major new realistic dimension to gameplay, because unlike any of the other combinations, you can run non-electrified trains on electrified tracks and also on their own tracks, but electrified trains have to stay just on the electrified tracks. This is fun and adds to the complexity of the routing system. I really enjoy doing that. Moving from monorail to maglev I always though was a terrible pain, and I never bothered. Yes, I know there's the cheat to do it for you, but I don't necessarily want it ALL converted. Anyway, the maglev track is UGLY, I prefer the unified monorail/maglev very much.

It seems to me that, really, the patch developments relating to gameplay are finished. I haven't seen any really good ideas in quite a long while that weren't impossible. I think we'd do best to finish up with patch development, and have a stable version released with everything there is. The only aspect for improvements that I see is in new loco-sets and, especially, complete graphic environments. That would requires some patch-work, to make the industry vectors changeable, and some TPS work, to make it easier to install and select the new environments.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 30 May 2003 16:33

orudge wrote:IMHO: In My Humble Opinion

so I prefer IMO

... J/K ... what would you know ... everyday something new

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 May 2003 16:39

IMAaCO, this is getting OT...

*IMAaCO = In My Authoritative and Conclusive Opinion

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 30 May 2003 16:48

krtaylor wrote:IMAaCO, this is getting OT...

*IMAaCO = In My Authoritative and Conclusive Opinion

YCBR*! Though it felt necessary to CTU*, 'cuz if we didn't everyone would have to LUCLAiaD*.

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*YCBR: You Could Be Right
*CTU: Clear Things Up
*LUACLiaD: Look Up Chat-Lingo Abbreviations in a Dictionary

Post by **orudge** » 30 May 2003 16:53

IMAAAOTFASROTUMOIT this is very off topic.

* In My Authority As Administrator Of This Forum And Supreme Ruler Of The Universe™ My Opinion Is That

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 30 May 2003 16:55

orudge wrote:IMAAAOTFASROTUMOIT this is very off topic.

* In My Authority As Administrator Of This Forum And Supreme Ruler Of The Universe™ My Opinion Is That

IK

* I know

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 30 May 2003 17:10

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 30 May 2003 18:02

OT

[IMO I don't have to explain this one]

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 30 May 2003 20:37

Rob wrote:bs

Stierestront ?

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 30 May 2003 23:34

Well, I still think the end year wouldn't be too complex, as the developers did the start year, I imagine that the end year would be similar. As always though, it is up to them...

While on the topic of electrified railways (well, before it went OT), I think that electrified railways should be a tad more expensive than regular railways to factor in the cost of putting up the pylons and maintaing them, paying for electricity etc. Also, esp. in the Arctic (when using the Arctic set - electric tracks are avalible at the same time as regular tracks), these seems no point in building the non-electric tracks for the diesel passenger services.

Think about it, A railway company running a tight budget (I mean, in real life we can't dump a cht: sign down

), would not pay a ton more money to electrify a railway line that is only going to be running diesels. Here in Australia, the Govt. won't electrify many frieght lines (only diesels), or the extreme southern, northern and western lines, because it isn't cost effective.

Just thought that as the developers are moving towards wrapping up the patch, we might as well put it in with the electrified railways while they are working on them

Just a humble suggestion from The Cheat... erm... Raichase

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 31 May 2003 00:51

I think that electrified railways should be a tad more expensive than regular railways to factor in the cost of putting up the pylons and maintaing them, paying for electricity etc.

Aren't they? I always assumed they were. If not, you are absolutely right, they most definitely should be. I would say twice as expensive to lay, and twice as much to maintain.

However, they have a special advantage in the Arctic - electrified trains hardly slow down going up mountains because they have so much torque. I've noticed this in TTD, I suppose programmatically because the electric locos are blessed with high HP, and it makes an enormous difference. Even with doubleheading, the steam locos have a hard time going up a mountain. In fact, that's where you find freight electrified lines - in the mountains. There were at least two major ones in the US, one in Montana on the CMStP&P, and one in the South on the Virginian.

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 31 May 2003 07:49

krtaylor wrote:
I think that electrified railways should be a tad more expensive than regular railways to factor in the cost of putting up the pylons and maintaing them, paying for electricity etc.
Aren't they? I always assumed they were. If not, you are absolutely right, they most definitely should be. I would say twice as expensive to lay, and twice as much to maintain.

However, they have a special advantage in the Arctic - electrified trains hardly slow down going up mountains because they have so much torque. I've noticed this in TTD, I suppose programmatically because the electric locos are blessed with high HP, and it makes an enormous difference. Even with doubleheading, the steam locos have a hard time going up a mountain. In fact, that's where you find freight electrified lines - in the mountains. There were at least two major ones in the US, one in Montana on the CMStP&P, and one in the South on the Virginian.

eeeeerm, do you have to pay money (maintaincy) for your railway lines?

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 31 May 2003 08:01

orudge wrote:IMAAAOTFASROTUMOIT this is very off topic.

* In My Authority As Administrator Of This Forum And Supreme Ruler Of The Universe™ My Opinion Is That

:D:D

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