US Set Development Thread

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 29 May 2005 00:28

Um... the short hood on the 3098 is the same size as any non-snoot SD40-2/SD40. It lacks the porches on the end though. What do you mean it's "Huge"... ?

Also, B52 stated he wanted to draw the DT66-2000, posted pictures, etc. I then pointed out the futility of adding such a unit, to which Andrew replied "OK, I won't draw it", after B52 stated he was going to do so. Wouldn't you think what we think?

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 29 May 2005 02:03

Milwaukee Road EF-3 Boxcab - The short "Bobtail" units act like B-units, although if only 2 EF-3's are used, they should be back to back. The bobtail only appears in consists of 3 or more. All centre units should be bobtails.

These replace the EL-A in Arctic.

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 29 May 2005 02:13

Somone get a mop...

/me drools all over the floor

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 29 May 2005 02:48

Very nice! Shouldn't they be a little more closely coupled though? I like the livery!

I'm going to have to try to find a use for them. I almost never use the EL-A as it's quite expensive and painfully slow.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 29 May 2005 05:31

Whoo, that looks really nice Dan.

/me wanders off to go play with the US Set some more...

B52/Andrew, go argue your case in the OT forum, I don't want to read it here...

uzurpator · Post by **uzurpator** » 29 May 2005 08:37

Dan - Really good. I like it

But one thing bothers me - milw boxex were just that - boxes. But the roof in horizontal view makes it seem like they were curved...

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 29 May 2005 21:14

Thanks for the comments

I 'do' need to tweak the diagonal roof on that bobtail though.

Well, getting details and such was a PITA. They had railings across the top, which I attempted to illustrate, as well as if you look at this photo, the roof was indeed curved, with a straight deck.

I may take a look at it later though.

Andrew Barchifowski · Post by **Andrew Barchifowski** » 29 May 2005 22:00

What I said was intended to be a joke. Now that I know that you can't handle jokes, I won't say any more.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 29 May 2005 22:14

oh yeah. sure. funny.

no. wait. not.

Andrew Barchifowski · Post by **Andrew Barchifowski** » 30 May 2005 00:41

Well Born Acorn, if you don't like it, then don't say anything about it, unless you want to look like a retard.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 May 2005 02:53

Hey! Hey! Calm down! This isn't worth an argument over. B52 and Andrew are different people. Or they aren't. What difference does it make, as long as they draw well?

Lightglobe · Post by **Lightglobe** » 30 May 2005 02:56

Currently you are the one looking retarded(this is aimed at AB. Teach me for not quoting). Now I think everyone should stop this stupidity(especially you B52/AB) and actually start talking ontopic.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 30 May 2005 06:24

Please, take it to the OT section. Large topics like this don't split well

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RailJade · Post by **RailJade** » 30 May 2005 07:25

DanMacK wrote:Milwaukee Road EF-3 Boxcab - The short "Bobtail" units act like B-units, although if only 2 EF-3's are used, they should be back to back. The bobtail only appears in consists of 3 or more. All centre units should be bobtails.

These replace the EL-A in Arctic.

I am very much interested in the specs that would be used in this mod

. I would be certanly be using this locomotive to haul coal and passengers (Non-express) all over the place

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krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 May 2005 13:55

The specs are about the same as the current boxcab, aren't they?

Thrakki · Post by **Thrakki** » 30 May 2005 16:40

As a suggestion for another possible livery (just because I find it looks rather sharp), how about the Iowa, Chicago & Eastern (or ICE for short)? It's far better looking than liveries like the EJ&E, for instance, and makes a better (looking) representation of liveries seen in the Midwestern region of the country. I believe they run mostly SD-40-2s and some GP varieties. Given the current way the US Set is set up, this could only be available in artic climate, of course...

Here's some links to websites with pictures:

http://www.icerail.com/

http://www.pbase.com/sportnet23/image/38287763

http://www.frograil.com/gifs/shortLines ... astern.htm

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 31 May 2005 02:01

I think the DB set already has the ICE in it.

Seriously, it's a nice enough livery. We already have something in the set that looks quite similar, I hadn't noticed it before until it cropped up in a game I'm playing. I don't have any objection to having a livery variant in this livery of a loco we already have in the game. I'd kind of like to have the selected liveries first though.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 31 May 2005 04:53

Attention Oracle!

I have been continuing to play full games through each of the three climates with the new version. I would have liked to get all the way through while we were testing, but of course, that takes an awful lot of playing time, which I didn't have. So alas, I have found some late breaking bugs.

1. On the ALP-46, it has the NJT passenger cars, which is great! But it doesn't have the NJT mail cars, alas, and it should.

2. The F59PHI used to have matching bilevels. It now demands bilevels only, but doesn't get matching ones - instead it gets the old-style commuter bilevels, which is wrong. So the whole train looks odd.

zero1000 · Post by **zero1000** » 31 May 2005 11:07

DanMacK wrote:Well, getting details and such was a PITA. They had railings across the top, which I attempted to illustrate, as well as if you look at this photo, the roof was indeed curved, with a straight deck.

Dan, you know this?
http://paintshop.railfan.net/images/mol ... _ef-3.html

uzurpator · Post by **uzurpator** » 31 May 2005 11:40

DanMacK wrote:Thanks for the comments I 'do' need to tweak the diagonal roof on that bobtail though.

Well, getting details and such was a PITA. They had railings across the top, which I attempted to illustrate, as well as if you look at this photo, the roof was indeed curved, with a straight deck.

I may take a look at it later though.

So you try to show railings that are ~0,5 inch thick with pixels that represent about 2 square feet? A futile attempt to say the least.

EDIT - and currently it looks like it is amfleet...

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