NARS2 - the North American Railway Set [2.52 September 2021]

[NekoMaster]

Okay, well, the problem is caused by different base costs. You're not going to be able to fix it.

Alright... I guess im just going to have to keep using 2ccTrainSet to Keep the costs Balences (eg. a F Unit might be 80,000 USD and a Passenger Coach might be 4,000 USD rather then 44,000 USD) Though, if the locomotives where more expensive, but the wagons and cars also exensive, but balenced prices, I think that would seam more realistic since locomotives and wagons\cars aren't cheap.

[NekoMaster]

Hmm, an idea, what about adding a refit option to the 4-4-2 Atlantic to turn it in to a 4-4-2 Hiawatha and change the speed and TE to 100 Mph and 136kN TE and of corse, 1,400 HP

[PikkaBird]

Hmm, an idea, what about adding a refit option to the 4-4-2 Atlantic to turn it in to a 4-4-2 Hiawatha and change the speed and TE to 100 Mph and 136kN TE and of corse, 1,400 HP

The Milwaukee A is unusual, specific and rare, and it doesn't fit with the date or statistics of the existing Atlantic. If you want a Hiawatha, the F7 is one of the streamlined Hudson variants.

As always, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else making a "NARS compatible" Milwaukee A as a seperate grf.

[NekoMaster]

Hmm, an idea, what about adding a refit option to the 4-4-2 Atlantic to turn it in to a 4-4-2 Hiawatha and change the speed and TE to 100 Mph and 136kN TE and of corse, 1,400 HP

The Milwaukee A is unusual, specific and rare, and it doesn't fit with the date or statistics of the existing Atlantic. If you want a Hiawatha, the F7 is one of the streamlined Hudson variants.

As always, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else making a "NARS compatible" Milwaukee A as a seperate grf.

Hmm... well I suck at spriting, so.... I hope someone else will have to draw that beautiful train for NARS2 cause it would be nice

[Packer]

Nikko, I'd have to agree with pikka on the MILW Atlantic. The class A was a very large atlantic, IIRC almost as big as a USRA Pacific. But that does raise the question why is the DD40AX in the set? However the old US set did have the Class As.

I do see some valididty to the refit for a different class though. That could give us SD and GP 38, 39, 40, and 45s, and there dash-2 variants, maybe even F45, and C30-7s and other ones that would be almost identical in game appereance. Doubt if it's possible to do it that way, but would be nice since I've run into times where SD40-2s won't cut it, the Alcos are

Personally, I would like to see RS-11s in the game, in addition to the B-B century series, and an RSD-15.

[NekoMaster]

Nikko, I'd have to agree with pikka on the MILW Atlantic. The class A was a very large atlantic, IIRC almost as big as a USRA Pacific. But that does raise the question why is the DD40AX in the set? However the old US set did have the Class As.

I do see some valididty to the refit for a different class though. That could give us SD and GP 38, 39, 40, and 45s, and there dash-2 variants, maybe even F45, and C30-7s and other ones that would be almost identical in game appereance. Doubt if it's possible to do it that way, but would be nice since I've run into times where SD40-2s won't cut it, the Alcos are

Personally, I would like to see RS-11s in the game, in addition to the B-B century series, and an RSD-15.

Yeah, i would like to see some of the GP variants and same with the SD's, and I would really love a F45\FP45. Also a RSD-15 would be nice

[Packer]

I tried my had at an RS11 and GP40-2 in the mean time. They are only mock-ups made using the original NARS sprites.

The RS-11 was made by increasing the height of the hood of the RS3 and adding some of the different grilles. The GP40-2 was made by adding another fan and removing the box behind the cab.

[NekoMaster]

I tried my had at an RS11 and GP40-2 in the mean time. They are only mock-ups made using the original NARS sprites.

The RS-11 was made by increasing the height of the hood of the RS3 and adding some of the different grilles. The GP40-2 was made by adding another fan and removing the box behind the cab.

Hmm, also It would be nice to have the passenger hauling GP40 Variants like the Gp40tc or the GP40WH2, if you can draw up the spries and make them good enough Im sure pikka would be happy to add them if possible

[PikkaBird]

I tried my had at an RS11 and GP40-2 in the mean time. They are only mock-ups made using the original NARS sprites.

You know those are NARS 1 sprites, right? I can PM you the NARS2 GP/SD sprites if you want.

if you can draw up the spries and make them good enough Im sure pikka would be happy to add them if possible

Add them to NARS, no. Code them as an add-on grf, possibly, but only after the NARS 2.1 update.

[Packer]

I tried my had at an RS11 and GP40-2 in the mean time. They are only mock-ups made using the original NARS sprites.

You know those are NARS 1 sprites, right? I can PM you the NARS2 GP/SD sprites if you want.

It's what I had on hand, and I didn't want to plagurize the NARS 2 sprites. But if you have the NARS2 sprites and can PM them, that'd be great. If you have the ones for the cab units (FAs, PAs, Fs, Es, etc) those would be much appreciated too.

Add them to NARS, no. Code them as an add-on grf, possibly, but only after the NARS 2.1 update.

There is that parameter in NARS 2 that allows it.

Hmm, also It would be nice to have the passenger hauling GP40 Variants like the Gp40tc or the GP40WH2, if you can draw up the spries and make them good enough Im sure pikka would be happy to add them if possible

Most of the GP40 passenger variants are 1-road only engines, and they kind of get rid of the point of having an F40PH, since the others were almost all local engines.

[PikkaBird]

There is that parameter in NARS 2 that allows it.

That allows what? A NARS addon grf would, of course, be NARS compatible, so wouldn't need the parameter set to be used.

I'll PM you the sprite sheet.

[Ottomobeale]

Disable NARS2 from disabling itself:

Set the NARS 2 parameter to 0 0 0 0 5

Me luvs NARS 2 but want all sortsa different stuff so I disable its disabling itself

[Packer]

Alright, I got the SD38-2 and SD45-2 done.

[NekoMaster]

Alright, I got the SD38-2 and SD45-2 done.

Um, isn't the SD45-2 just a more up to date and reliable SD45?

[Packer]

Alright, I got the SD38-2 and SD45-2 done.

Um, isn't the SD45-2 just a more up to date and reliable SD45?

Pretty much, an SD45 with the dash-2 improvments.

[NekoMaster]

Alright, I got the SD38-2 and SD45-2 done.

Um, isn't the SD45-2 just a more up to date and reliable SD45?

Pretty much, an SD45 with the dash-2 improvments.

So really it would just replace the SD45 or in the SD45 info part it would say
Version : First (or)
Version : Dash 2

Anymore trains coming?

[Packer]

It depends on the creators if they want to include it or not.

I did a bunch of geeps in the meantime.

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I might do the 35s next, maybe a F45.

[NekoMaster]

It depends on the creators if they want to include it or not.

I did a bunch of geeps in the meantime.

645 geeps.PNG

I might do the 35s next, maybe a F45.

For now I can make a simple set till pikka or someone codes the set as a addon to nars2 (like horn sound, running sounds, extra info, parameter to change the livery)

[Packer]

No new engine this time. Instead, it's a mock-up of one:

F45 mock-up.PNG (708 Bytes) Viewed 1774 times

I'm gonna try the | and - views before the / and \ views, so I want to see what people think in these ones. I do have the FP45 sprites from the US set, maybe I should repaint that before rather than make one from scratch. I'll probably re-do the red on it for Player 3's livery when they have passenger cars behind.

[NekoMaster]

No new engine this time. Instead, it's a mock-up of one:

F45 mock-up.PNG

I'm gonna try the | and - views before the / and \ views, so I want to see what people think in these ones. I do have the FP45 sprites from the US set, maybe I should repaint that before rather than make one from scratch. I'll probably re-do the red on it for Player 3's livery when they have passenger cars behind.

Oh Please complete this one please

Also could you send me a sprite sheet with the F45 when your done and the trains you've made (just the black roofed ones)