ToyLand Graphics Conversion

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 11 Mar 2003 17:50

The Toyland track and roads don't look good. They look like, well, toys, which isn't appropriate for East Asia.

I recommend that you copy the roads and tracks from the Temperate environment, and put them onto the appropriate grass backgrounds that Dinges got for us. There had been some thought of having new grass of a slightly darker, bluish hue, but that never really went anywhere. You could look at some pictures of Japan and China for ideas. I suppose I need to start an archive of Asian scenery, don't I.

cmd_srui · Post by **cmd_srui** » 11 Mar 2003 17:55

I was refering to tiles 180 and 181. I am not going to touch on the roads right now. Just Track....

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 11 Mar 2003 18:31

cmd_srui wrote:I was refering to tiles 180 and 181. I am not going to touch on the roads right now. Just Track....

We had a talk about the rails. they shouldn't be as on the bridges I make

If you're done with the roads, you may send them to me so I can put em on the bridges.

Also I have a proposion for the monorail. Maybe if we do the rails above the train so it would hang below it. Maybe an suggestion?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 11 Mar 2003 19:07

>> Maybe if we do the rails above the train so it would hang below it.

Wow. What an awe-inspiring idea. This is so cool. I wish I'd thought of it.

It certainly would answer a lot of aggravating graphic issues we've had, such as the rail-road crossings.

I suppose there would be offset pylons, kind of like the ones that hold up the caternary on the electrified rail graphics, and which are always behind the trains, reaching over and holding the rail up from above.

The only trouble I would see are the bridges. The pylons holding up the monorail would look odd on top of an otherwise ordinary bridge. Is it possible for monorails to have their own bridges? Ideally a monorail bridge would simply have taller pylons that just stuck down into the water, grass, whatever. That's also realistic I think.

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 11 Mar 2003 19:20

krtaylor wrote:>> Maybe if we do the rails above the train so it would hang below it.

Wow. What an awe-inspiring idea. This is so cool. I wish I'd thought of it.

It certainly would answer a lot of aggravating graphic issues we've had, such as the rail-road crossings.

I suppose there would be offset pylons, kind of like the ones that hold up the caternary on the electrified rail graphics, and which are always behind the trains, reaching over and holding the rail up from above.

The only trouble I would see are the bridges. The pylons holding up the monorail would look odd on top of an otherwise ordinary bridge. Is it possible for monorails to have their own bridges? Ideally a monorail bridge would simply have taller pylons that just stuck down into the water, grass, whatever. That's also realistic I think.

Most bridges (I'm saying not all), have 1 shared sprite and 1 separated sprite. Exept for the tubular which has a very strange graphical layout.

Of each railtype: 1 for the first part , 1 for the last part, 1 middle part.*
The same for all railtypes: 1 for the first part, 1 for the last part, 1 for the middle. Which 'hang' on the above parts. So it would be possible for this type (Just delete track below and make a rail on it. And it would fly above the water). And offcourse we could use our remaining girder (the cicrular ones). We could construct a monorail bridge from it. For Owen or Josef (or somebody else) to change the length of the bridge (as it spans over just two squires)

Bridge update:

peaz · Post by **peaz** » 11 Mar 2003 19:21

i like these bridges, they have something, idunno but they feel good

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 11 Mar 2003 19:26

peaz wrote:i like these bridges, they have something, idunno but they feel good

Maybe it's the white color.

peaz · Post by **peaz** » 11 Mar 2003 19:28

could be, also like the small crossbars (whatever you call them)
actually i dunno if theyre there

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 11 Mar 2003 19:28

Bingo, let's keep these.

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 11 Mar 2003 19:34

To test 'em

I think I'm going to remove some crosties in the front

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 13 Mar 2003 16:25

Maybe this is better:

(Pillars will be recolored, and the sides too and there will be pillars for the overhead wires.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 13 Mar 2003 16:34

Oh, that is really nice. I think the pillars look flat - not three-dimensional, though. Also they look like they are at the edge of the bridge, the photo has them centered. Maybe ading an angle to them to give them some depth. The bridge looks great.

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 13 Mar 2003 19:32

krtaylor wrote:Oh, that is really nice. I think the pillars look flat - not three-dimensional, though. Also they look like they are at the edge of the bridge, the photo has them centered. Maybe ading an angle to them to give them some depth. The bridge looks great.

It needs some color and than it will be better (I hope)

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 13 Mar 2003 20:14

Maybe this one?

peaz · Post by **peaz** » 13 Mar 2003 20:32

looks great!

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 13 Mar 2003 20:45

thats really good! The colours all work and the pillars are a big improvement! Keep up the good work m8!

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 13 Mar 2003 20:46

Dinges wrote:Maybe this one?

Those pilars look very good, they have a 3d feeling

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 13 Mar 2003 21:13

Dinges wrote:Maybe this one?

... really nice .... but this grey 'ballast' or something like this ... doesn't fit here .... but maybe it will fit when we see it with real tracks .... but now it doesn't ....

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 14 Mar 2003 13:47

SHADOW-XIII wrote:
Dinges wrote:Maybe this one?
... really nice .... but this grey 'ballast' or something like this ... doesn't fit here .... but maybe it will fit when we see it with real tracks .... but now it doesn't ....

You mean on the bridge? The color next to the rails? It can be changed, I think I will turn it a little darker (more grey) and make the rails brown (like here). And delete the crosties.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 14 Mar 2003 15:16

I think the bridge is done, except perhaps for the approaches. Having the rails set into the concrete that way is not uncommon for high-speed lines.

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