New Graphics - Blender ".blend" thread (Works In Progress)

[DeletedUser5]

I would like to remake everything city buildings from tropical environment.

He said that he will remake all buildings for tropical climate.

So just wait.

And your flats aren't that ugly.

[Born Acorn]

Wonderful work on the Tropical houses. My only query is that I believe the same house sprite is used for buildings on Sub-Tropical's grassy/rainforest cities, in which case the desert/sand ground may look out of place. (I think this is why the originals went for a mud look?)

[Wacki]

EDIT:
I make a little change on picture.

Lordazamath - your tropical flats look nice, it only need some textures!!!!

[pavel1269]

wow, i must say great work keep going that way

[George]

I spent last night trying to find a quick way of shrinking down the grass sprites and adding (or not) black borders.

According to the picture, the sun fall looks strange. Looks like there are 2 suns. 1 in front and one behind us on the right.
I think the light should look like this

[Moriarty]

Ok, thanks Ben. It just seems that as Water is one of the few sprites that can be used across all climates, it might be interesting to do it sooner rather than later and I wondered if everyone else had forgotton it (as I don't recall anyone ever mentioning it).
I also imagine it would be one of the harder ones to pull off.

[Wacki]

We have new day and here is new house

[Zephyris]

A quick mock up...
I think they look excellent, apart from the choice of ground texture, which will look odd in grassy areas.
Having said that I really like the ground texture, please please please make a tile set for the desert terrain!

*edit* And really good trees, scale up slightly and they would be excellent as roadside/terrain trees too...

[Ben_Robbins_]

George: Here’s a comparison (attached), the original seem to have sprite B and its neighbour slightly brighter if anything, while on your example it’s ‘A’ that is considerably brighter. I have ‘B’ and ‘A’ around the same with the tile between slightly brighter as the light direction is close to horizontal. Which tiles specifically would you suggest brightening/darkening?

[George]

George: Here’s a comparison (attached), the original seem to have sprite B and its neighbour slightly brighter if anything, while on your example it’s ‘A’ that is considerably brighter. I have ‘B’ and ‘A’ around the same with the tile between slightly brighter as the light direction is close to horizontal. Which tiles specifically would you suggest brightening/darkening?

I find original colour schema containing mistakes and suggest to use the brightness schema I posted. I calculated it according to the sun position I suggested long ago http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21583 (I assumed that the brightens is proportional to the angel between the surface and the sunlight direction).

[Ben_Robbins_]

George: You first diagram seems to agree more or less to a point I made about 18 months ago also. I animated the lights moving and checked it which is here, and then drew up this from it: (white - best angles, red - worst)

I do agree though, maybe the front (side 'A') needs a slightly more lighting, but I think the side between A and B should be brighter than A, as having side A significantly brighter makes the bottom side seem overly dark, and the light being more southerly than I think it is (around 130'degrees).

[GeekToo]

George and Ben,

While creating my grass, I did make several test renders, wrt to shading, and like to share my findings.

Actually I think both your examples are not completely realistic:
George: the example you gave cannot be correct: the brightest and darkest tile are not opposite to each other, which is physically impossible I think, so the brightest tile should be on the right, or the darkest one must be on the tile between left and top.

Ben: In your example the top tile is too dark, compared to the one left of it . Because the light is almost horizontal, the top and bottom tiles should by almost symmetric. My grass set suffers from the same 'artefact' deliberately , if the top and bottom tile are almost the same colour, it becomes more difficult to distinguish the slope of the hill, so I made the top tile darker deliberately, to enhance gameplay at the cost of being less realistic.

In short, I think the best shading would be obtained if in George's example the A tile and right were swapped, which then very much resembles Ben example, if his top tile would be just a little brighter (just enough to distinguish it from the one left of it.

[athanasios]

Wacki: All of your tropical bildings are nice. What goes wrong is the tint of white on walls. They appear grey, unlike original that are white. I know it is blender problem, so you will have to photoshop.
Note: Keep the walls of the sheds grey. They make a variation. Make main buildings walls white.
Also the sand color is better than original. Only we will burn our eyes.

regards
athanasios

[George]

George: the example you gave cannot be correct: the brightest and darkest tile are not opposite to each other, which is physically impossible I think,

mistaken If tiles would have the same angle between the tile's plane and the horizon plane, and we would have unlimited number of tiles with the size coming to zero, than it would be correct. But in TTD world they are not, of cause, so you can get this effect.

Just to mention. In my calculation I assumed that a tile is 16 x 16 and height of one level is 8.

[Michael24]

The tree is merged with the other two

Sweet!

Those trees where brilliant! Will they be available in TTDP as well?

[Ben_Robbins_]

George/Geektoo: I'll take a look at this in a short while, I'm currently just messing with alignments and getting rid of the see through pixels around the edge. I quickly made the attached to use to expose where these pixels are (for full zoom) if anybody needs to do the same. I think (in relation to merging sprites geektoo) I'm gunna have to move on from grass soon because this is driving me nuts, so once they tile ok and I've altered the shading as spoken about above I'll leave it for a bit. It's about as fun as watching grass grow, but without the grow bit.

Michael24: Thanks, there available to anybody, but currently I have made only 3 at full zoom. Feel free to resize if you want. I shall do more when I have time, and I still need to finish the 3rd one also.

[LordAzamath]

Michael24: Thanks, there available to anybody, but currently I have made only 3 at full zoom. Feel free to resize if you want. I shall do more when I have time, and I still need to finish the 3rd one also.

Only if I recall correctly TTDP doesn't support 32bpp graphics though...

[Ben_Robbins_]

Just as OTTD trunk doesn't support full zoom. But the graphics can be altered to work if people want, rather than me doing it. I'm not sure how easy it is to generate 8bpp graphics from 32bpp images though as I've never tried it before.

[Zephyris]

The 32bpp ---> 8bpp conversion tends to work fairly well... Just convert to an 8bpp image with the correct palette.

[Ben_Robbins_]

Geektoo/George: It’s hard to agree to 2 differing opinions, but I've gone on what you said and made the attached. I agree mostly with Geektoo’s first post and have reduced the contrast between the tiles towards the base. The light is now shifted more to the forward side of 90 degrees right, but not as far down as the diagram in the topic you linked to George. This darkening around the top right hand side has allowed me to remove some of the yellow which I wasn't that keen on and I think is one of the main strengths in geektoo's grass. Anyway, is this more as you were describing?