[ottd] Danish transport set (Version 0.0.3.B) (14.10%) [dead / 2020]

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Michael24 some Q. for you why does the Passanger BK need lights (the red tail light is oki:wink:) is it a train? og a wagon?

And Passanger ABn whats is the yellow ? :wink:

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Lachris wrote:Michael24 some Q. for you why does the Passanger BK need lights (the red tail light is oki:wink:) is it a train? og a wagon?

And Passanger ABn whats is the yellow ? :wink:

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First: Don't know about the light really.. Did'nt think about that.

Second: The yellow on the ABn: http://ttdxd.ooas.dk/cars/ABs/index.php ... rrentPic=1 ;)
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After a little research i found out that the ABn is ABs, and the BK is B(II)

Im changing the name, and if you could do the same on the website OKF, that would be nice :)
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Okay in my world the ABs is the train and the B(II) is the wagons :wink:
(many ppl say my world is strange :lol: )
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Lachris wrote:Okay in my world the ABs is the train and the B(II) is the wagons :wink:
(many ppl say my world is strange :lol: )
Thats correct, but the ABs is a controlwagon, not a train. The reason i made the frontlights for the ABs is becouse i hade an idea to make it a "train" in the game. It would be cool to have the ABs up front, and maybe a EA og something in the back of the train. Would make it more realistic :D

Would do you guys think?
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Lachris wrote:Okay in my world the ABs is the train and the B(II) is the wagons :wink:
(many ppl say my world is strange :lol: )
in holland were dsb as boredte the wagons form the is a double degger train to pull the as well.

but dsb only bouret the wagons and we have them to 2008.
will update the list and the site now..

the BK has room for 115 passengers and the B(II) has room for 121 passengers, de look the same but ther er not on the insite.

p.s.
on the site the cars are callet ABs B and BK
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to show you all, her is the control wagon form dsb and the EMU (IRM) form holland
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OKF2000 wrote:in holland were dsb as boredte the wagons form the is a double degger train to pull the as well.

but dsb only bouret the wagons...
That's likely because DSB needs them to work with no catenary as they should be used on the line Copenhagen-Kalundborg and it lacks catenary after Roskilde. Even if it had catenary, they use 1500 V DC in The Netherlands while we use 25.000 V. The train engines aren't compatible.

Also ATC might have caused issues as well.
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Bjarni wrote:
OKF2000 wrote:in holland were dsb as boredte the wagons form the is a double degger train to pull the as well.

but dsb only bouret the wagons...
That's likely because DSB needs them to work with no catenary as they should be used on the line Copenhagen-Kalundborg and it lacks catenary after Roskilde. Even if it had catenary, they use 1500 V DC in The Netherlands while we use 25.000 V. The train engines aren't compatible.

Also ATC might have caused issues as well.
you right and to user the cars dsb intallet ZWS the on the ME to communika widt them, also we bougte them becours the MG (IC4) is not finish, so the IC3 can not be friet to local transport.
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OKF2000 wrote:
Bjarni wrote:
OKF2000 wrote:you right and to user the cars dsb intallet ZWS the on the ME to communika widt them, also we bougte them becours the MG (IC4) is not finish, so the IC3 can not be friet to local transport.
Rented, not bought. There is a big difference :wink:
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Bjarni wrote:
OKF2000 wrote:
Bjarni wrote:Rented, not bought. There is a big difference :wink:
my bad spelling. og allso men the the Rented them
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Okay point taken :wink:

I like your "control wagons", but it's not how it is actually :?

So it's eyecandi vs. realism???? ppl help

HARD :(

what about make 2 set download.. one with realism and one with eyeC.
If not REALISM FOR ME THX.
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Michael24 wrote:Thats correct, but the ABs is a controlwagon, not a train. The reason i made the frontlights for the ABs is becouse i hade an idea to make it a "train" in the game. It would be cool to have the ABs up front, and maybe a EA og something in the back of the train. Would make it more realistic :D
Actually they are used together with ME, not EA.

I wonder if we can make the grf that if you build a steering car (this goes for all of them, not just ABs), then you can only add wagons after it of the right type and then an engine of the right type. Kind of like when we get that "more" sign.
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actually, eyecandy is realism, becouse it will look right, and be realistic. Since when the train arrives at Copenhagen it want turn all around to go to Roskilde. You will operat the lokomotiv for the control wagon ;) Hence, realistic AND eyecandy :P
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The problem is the ABs is not a train and in TTD the trains cant PUSH, only pull the wagons. This feature is not done yet

(If i remember it right)
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Lachris wrote:The problem is the ABs is not a train and in TTD the trains cant PUSH, only pull the wagons. This feature is not done yet

(If i remember it right)
If you put the MZ up front and the ABs in the back or the other way, you will get whatever is upfront as the "main" train. Get it? :P
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I got it, but when the train goes from kalundborg to copenhagen, the "control wagon" is always in front :evil: hmm but we just have to wait to TTD has the Push feature :wink: some day
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Lachris wrote:The problem is the ABs is not a train and in TTD the trains cant PUSH, only pull the wagons. This feature is not done yet
In OpenTTD, you can make a steering car, that's an engine with 0 power. This way you can put it in front of the train, in the middle and in the rear as you like. Since it will have 0 power, it will be stopped in the depot with "No Power" Instead of "Stopped" and you will get a red error message telling that it lacks power if you try to start it. Once you add an engine to the train, the total power of the whole train will be differerent from 0 and the train can start moving. As I didn't test this, it might not work 100%, but any issues can be solved. The question is more like what will the patch say to this and how to code grf files to work this way.
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Lachris wrote:I got it, but when the train goes from kalundborg to copenhagen, the "control wagon" is always in front :evil:
they are called "steering cars" in English (at least that is what I'm told)

All this steering car talk reminds me of when DSB somehow managed to turn a train around, so the steering car and the locomotive had switched places. It took days before it was back to normal and in all that time, one of the trains had first class and room for bikes in the "wrong" end of a 7 wagon train :lol:
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DSB in a nut shell :wink: hehe

Edit1: What is the difference between Litra Y (the pig) and Litra ML??
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