Connex Melbourne EMU's

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 10 May 2007 09:41

If you need any help with stats, give me a kick.

George · Post by **George** » 10 May 2007 12:00

WhiteHand wrote:If you need any help with stats, give me a kick.

Well, we need to give you a kick about you last post here http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19195

WhiteHand wrote:I'll get the poll set up tomorrow if I have time.

dev|ant · Post by **dev|ant** » 12 May 2007 07:55

pantagram wrote:Okay, I can make the sprites myself. But I'll need a coder

I'm up for some coding. A Melbourne/VR set would be ace!

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 14 May 2007 04:28

Ok, I will include many V/Line diesel locomotives, as well as a few fiction ones for the future. Problem is my first train starts in 1924, leaving user out for 3 years...

I'll post a table of all stats of veichles shortly.

I'll need the stats for the Sprinter and VLocity trains, as well as all the Melbourne Suburban trains. Thanks to (the old) Railpage Australia for all the stats of the VicRail and V/Line locos.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 14 May 2007 06:25

pantagram wrote:Ok, I will include many V/Line diesel locomotives, as well as a few fiction ones for the future. Problem is my first train starts in 1924, leaving user out for 3 years...

Did Victoria not have railway before 1924? That seems odd...

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 15 May 2007 01:45

You have a point there, but I don't know anything about steamers, so I've stuck to Diesels and Electrics.

Any steamers are welcome, but I'll need stats.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 15 May 2007 04:35

pantagram wrote:Any steamers are welcome, but I'll need stats.

I'd start doing some research then. Any good set is not made in a day, nor is it made with no solid backing.

Sydney Terminal has an ARHS bookstore.

Their website is http://www.arhsnsw.com.au. Yes, it's a NSW bookstore, and they do have an online store. They are a part of Australian Rail Heritage, and publish a number of magazines you may be interested in. "Railway Digest" has fascinating articles and news relevant to railways all over Australia. They also publish "Australian Railway History", another, cheaper magazine with articles from all over Australia about random facts and things from history.

Their online store has books about railways everywhere. Yes, their focus is NSW, but they also have some Victorian stuff, as I saw when browsing the store itself a week ago.

A lot of their books are generally great reads and good for a bookshelf if you are interested in history of railways. I'm always squirriling my pennies away for a new book from there, they have some fantastic stuff.

If nothing else, check the website out, do a wikipedia search, a google search. Check out the library. The information is out there, and depending on how serious you are about your hobby, you can get it.

Good luck!

dev|ant · Post by **dev|ant** » 21 May 2007 09:20

There's some great info here: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~ajh/trains/vic/index.xml

Not specs so much but lots of images, dates, etc.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 06 Jun 2007 02:49

I have most of the specs for the train I intend to use. They cover a wide span of service. I am starting up a thread on my own forum here for any ideas for future trains.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/The_Met_Foru ... owtopic=13

Feel free to list any ideas.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 06 Jun 2007 07:46

pantagram wrote:I have most of the specs for the train I intend to use. They cover a wide span of service. I am starting up a thread on my own forum here for any ideas for future trains.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/The_Met_Foru ... owtopic=13

Feel free to list any ideas.

Firstly, as I have to log in to read the thread, I'm unlikely to register and make an account for it.

Secondly, may I humbly suggest you do all dev work here on tt-forums? Mostly so everyone can follow progress easily, but also to aid you in your sprite drawing, and debugging of code...

Simo · Post by **Simo** » 06 Jun 2007 10:03

I spent some time recently in Melbourne, so I thought I'd try to make an effort to start this for you.

Please don't be too harsh, this is my first time trying to draw vehicles.

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 06 Jun 2007 10:24

Not bad. Not bad at all. Just add some extra texture, and finish the windows. Great start!

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 06 Jun 2007 10:40

For a first try, those are pretty damned awesome. Hell, those would look fine in any set.

I'm sure the artists may have some pointers for you, but I just clap my hands. Bravo, excellent!

dev|ant · Post by **dev|ant** » 06 Jun 2007 11:06

You saw Tait's while you were in Melbourne?

Great start. If you can get them to a stage where they're ready to go into a GRF, I'll get them coded up in no time.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 06 Jun 2007 11:15

Forgot to mention, it's good to see that the *hardest* sprites are done well. IMO, the horizontal and vertical sprites are easier to draw. Judging from the diagonals, we're in for a treat

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Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 06 Jun 2007 16:10

Are the ends of the carraiges meant to be wider than the middle?

Simo · Post by **Simo** » 06 Jun 2007 22:04

Ameecher wrote:Are the ends of the carraiges meant to be wider than the middle?

No. But the front I had to make 1 pixel higher for the full width, because from what I've seen the Tait cars have a full width lightbox that buffers a clerestory roof across the cab end. So I'm guessing what you're seeing is the 'reverse 'end' looking wider, when it is actually shorter.

Thanks for the support guys. I've got Purno's guide to thank, they were tricky but I had to give it a go

Dev|ant: Yes, I saw a Tait in Melbourne, at the rail museum.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 08 Jun 2007 06:04

Simo wrote:I spent some time recently in Melbourne, so I thought I'd try to make an effort to start this for you.

Please don't be too harsh, this is my first time trying to draw vehicles.

Thanks Simo, Better than I could do.

Comeng 523M · Post by **Comeng 523M** » 08 Jun 2007 07:01

Anyhow, Due to the fact that I have very limited time on my hands, I'll stick to the original Melbourne EMU's. Personally, I'd run it alongside the NSW set, if they could be compatible together. I'm not sure about the technicalities in TTDP. So I'll go with what you advise.

Simo · Post by **Simo** » 08 Jun 2007 08:59

This is a bit of a newbie thing to be saying, but I can't seem to get the horizontal and vertical views looking in scale compared to the diagonal views on the Tait cars.

Would it be possible for Purno, or somebody with train graphic experience to have a go at getting the scale correct.

I may have the sizes right, but it just doesn't look in scale.

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