32-bit Graphics for OpenTTD 32bpp (Zoom)

[Sergej_S]

Atlantis, I agree with you in that a showcase is a great way to promote enthusiasm about the 32bpp scheme. Sadly, Sergej is doing it all the wrong way. Whether thats a language barrier (which I doubt) or a personal thing, I dont know.
Basically, I know the toolbar is what its talking about BUT as other people have said many times -

Just show the one item you are trying to showcase not a load of other images too

Or similar statements.

See, if I were doing it and I really couldnt bring myself to show just a toolbar, the least I would do is to add a line saying - This picture also shows an Oil Rig designed by Wacki. This is not a grf but just a 3d drawing that he has created for illustration purposes.
Another example is the way he 'shows a map of London' and shows just a house. Its a waste of time, it shows nothing of London, merely it shows someone elses graphic!

Killer11 sums it up about this example really. The oil rig is obviously the main focal point. We have seen these darn toolbars so many times now!

What do you mean?

Well, he rubs many artists backs up becuase he takes their images without their permission. This is just one example of it. He also doesnt give the necessary credit whether he has permission or not. This also seems an example of that. Im just finding it tiring now.

Petroleum platform has made Wacki , Czechia, but his(its) job is not completed!!!

It the preliminary breadboard model is shown only!

There is no breakdown of the image on 4 parts, there is no phase of construction...

If the Author wants - I can lay out this breadboard model in general(common) access is the Author - and anybody should decide(solve) only another!!!

Sergej

[Sergej_S]

I show variant of a window of management of vehicles for the version OpenTTD 32bpp
The graphic images are taken from a free collection of icons found in the Internet

The name of style - 3D Arts

This file can be received under the direct reference directly from here:
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/Wi ... bpp_v5.tar
The minimally necessary version - OpenTTD 32bpp 8942.

Sergey.

[Rubidium]

Again we begin all at first?

We have agreed - that the general(common) list of the artists is in the first message, and I in the current letters shall write only about those artists, which job to be in the given file / or archive!!!

Why it require(demand) only of me???

Why such requirements I do not see from others???

Sergej

This is about the 200th time there has been miscommunication between you and (most of) the rest of the community.
You really need to ditch your electronic translator.
It makes absolutely nonsense when translating from Russian to English and from English to Russian.
And take some classes in English or ask somebody who can do proper translations from English to Russian and Russian to English to do the translating.

These miscommunications are really getting annoying.

[DeletedUser21]

Uhm... Sergej, I think something went wrong here.

Look:

[Killer 11]

Failed photoshop?

EDIT:

Again we begin all at first?

We have agreed - that the general(common) list of the artists is in the first message, and I in the current letters shall write only about those artists, which job to be in the given file / or archive!!!

Why it require(demand) only of me???

Why such requirements I do not see from others???

Sergej

Becouse those people don't use online translators and do arrange all the needed permissions for their grf sets or do the work themselves.
I have yet to see a set that had anything wrong with credits they all say the EXACT authors of the work that's inside the archive.
You on other hand post an image of lets say a toolbar but focus the view on the oilrig and credit the toolbars author it all would seem to be correct BUT by focusing the picture on the oilrig you make people that don't download your archives think that the archive actualy contains the oilrig and that you miscredit the author.
That's why people focus screenshots on the work that's in the archive or atleast warn that all the other graphics are not in that archive.
So when you will post toolbar gfx again you can just post only the toolbar or take the screenshot on an area full of only water for example.
If your implementation of the gfx of the toolbar is good there's no reason to stuff the screenshot with various other stuff.

And also you HAVE to stop using the automatic translator it only makes you trouble!

[athanasios]

What failed photoshop?

To everyone reading threads about 32bpp:
Keep in mind many things display incorrectly in 32bpp. Please do not talk about captures being mockups unless it is stated they are or it is evident they are.

X: You got it! Of course I was joking, and I like to do that often... Laugh a lot and you will live longer.

[DeletedUser21]

Being positive and laughing a lot keeps your personal integrity intact, wich reduces the amount of mental stress in order to reduce the physical strain on the human body inwich slows the aging process a very little bit. And as we know, every little bit helps.

Enough offtopicness now, let's see with what Sergej comes up next in the process of 32bbp development.

[Sergej_S]

Repetition of a theme

The earnest entreaty to all readers of this theme (only by this by one)!!!

On the majority Russian forums the restriction on the size of the images - 200 Кб/ 500 Кб is established!!!

I ask to not do(make) the images of the large sizes!!!

This forum is read by(with) the users of Russia and other countries, which come into the Internet through the telephone!!!

It to not concern to jobs of the artists - artists can spread any sizes.

Only artists - instead of readers and criticism!!!

Sergej

[Sergej_S]

I show variant replaceable control panel for a musical player Zoom for the version OpenTTD 32bpp
The minimally necessary version - OpenTTD 32bpp 8942.

Graphics by Joed , Australia

The appearance of a skin is shown on a real copy of the screen.

The files can be received under the direct references here:
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/Mu ... bpp_v4.tar

Sergej

[Rubidium]

On the majority Russian forums the restriction on the size of the images - 200 Кб/ 500 Кб is established!!!

You yourself are posting images way more than 200 kB, so is this a joke?

P.S. please stop using automatic translators, they make absolute nonsense of your posts.

[giddorah]

On the majority Russian forums the restriction on the size of the images - 200 Кб/ 500 Кб is established!!!

You yourself are posting images way more than 200 kB, so is this a joke?

P.S. please stop using automatic translators, they make absolute nonsense of your posts.

Trying to put him down?

Seeing as most of his pictures are around 480kb, I can't understand how you could even remotely mock him for posting pictures that are within the limits of 200kb / 500kb that he posted.

I'm unfortunately seeing what I can only translate to jealousy from A LOT of people here.

I still think highly about Sergej who don't give a crap about all the fun you have about his english, all the dung you toss at him from time to time.

So he's not a native english speaker, so what? English is like, what, the fourth biggest language? Why are you mocking him for even going through the process of posting his work here? He could easily just say "I don't give a rats ass about those overpretentious bookworms." (In russian) and just continue his work without showcasing it here. OpenTTD-Graphics would probably stall in developement since nobody gets a hang of what is going on and what everything COULD be.

So just step down from your high-horses. He has done a much better job at gathering rights for using graphics from artists, then you come and make personal remarks Rubidium, that's just below the level of a serious computer programmer to do over a fellow programmers work.

(insert random curse)

[DaleStan]

Seeing as most of his pictures are around 480kb,

My calculator tells me that 480 is substantially larger than 200. And if 200 isn't significant, why was that number mentioned?

I'm unfortunately seeing what I can only translate to jealousy from A LOT of people here.

Care to explain which of Sergej's many and bounteous skills you think we're jealous of? Because we're definitely not jealous of its ability to drive an automatic translator.

So he's not a native english speaker, so what? English is like, what, the fourth biggest language?

Way off. Way, *WAY* off. Try "80% of the Internet is in English". And this site happens to be part of that 80%. Rumour (aka Wikipedia) has it that Chinese is working on eroding this lead, but that'll take a while.

He has done a much better job at gathering rights for using graphics from artists

I think the artists might have a substantially different idea about exactly what rights he did, or didn't, acquire.

[mr.adam]

Quality hungarian vehicle models available.

[Atlantis]

On the majority Russian forums the restriction on the size of the images - 200 Кб/ 500 Кб is established!!!

You yourself are posting images way more than 200 kB, so is this a joke?

P.S. please stop using automatic translators, they make absolute nonsense of your posts.

Trying to put him down?

Seeing as most of his pictures are around 480kb, I can't understand how you could even remotely mock him for posting pictures that are within the limits of 200kb / 500kb that he posted.

I'm unfortunately seeing what I can only translate to jealousy from A LOT of people here.

I still think highly about Sergej who don't give a crap about all the fun you have about his english, all the dung you toss at him from time to time.

So he's not a native english speaker, so what? English is like, what, the fourth biggest language? Why are you mocking him for even going through the process of posting his work here? He could easily just say "I don't give a rats ass about those overpretentious bookworms." (In russian) and just continue his work without showcasing it here. OpenTTD-Graphics would probably stall in developement since nobody gets a hang of what is going on and what everything COULD be.

So just step down from your high-horses. He has done a much better job at gathering rights for using graphics from artists, then you come and make personal remarks Rubidium, that's just below the level of a serious computer programmer to do over a fellow programmers work.

(insert random curse)

I couldn't agree more. This guy is producing amazing-looking work, and all I see is childish bickering (which DOES look like jealousy, to be honest). You guys are talking rubbish about someone you don't even know, because he uses a translator instead of learning English. That is pathetic, childish, and totally arrogant. If you're gonna be like that, don't post. lol

I don't normally post like this, especially to say stuff like this. I don't like causing a fuss or bad-mouthing anyone, but something has to be done, because you're just bringing down the tone of the forum, and if it doesn't stop, it will spread.

I also apologise for the off-topic post.

As for what he said about picture size limits, looks to me like he meant a range "200kb - 500kb". Make sense now?

[Rubidium]

Trying to put him down?

Well, I'm getting annoyed by him posting again and again the (almost) same automatically translated posts with only another image attached to it. Especially because there were people who have posted a version of his post in correct English!

Seeing as most of his pictures are around 480kb, I can't understand how you could even remotely mock him for posting pictures that are within the limits of 200kb / 500kb that he posted.

First: 200 kb = 25 kB. Secondly lets assume a Russian modem is 56 kb/s; that is the theoretically maximum speed.

That means it takes 4 seconds to load a 200 kb (25 kB) image. Would it been 200 kB, then it takes more than 30 seconds and 500 kB takes almost one and a half minute! Which are both absolutely inacceptable imo. When you make it a little more real, like adding the TCP/IP overheads etc, you end up with 40-45 seconds for 200 kB and about 2 minutes for 500 kB.

So, two minutes loading time for each of the posts of Sergej_S (as they are usually almost 500 kB big). Do you think that is 'acceptable'? See my point?

Somebody with a modem really shouldn't be browsing a topic with only images, especially when Sergej_S himself says that he has over 2 GB of OTTD 32 bpp images.

[Rubidium]

I really like to add some context to his work.

This guy is producing amazing-looking work, and all I see is childish bickering (which DOES look like jealousy, to be honest).

1) He has not made one of the images.
2) He complains about people not delivering images already split in multiple sections, so he only has to package them.
3) He does not tell whom's graphics are included in the screenshots (if they are screenshots); he lists people who have 'contributed' at least once.
4) He has taken (and maybe still is) graphics and packaged them without consent of the author of the graphics (copyright infringement).
5) He does usually does not understand a word of the questions and remarks that are given about for example copyright infringement.
6) He posts his images in any thread only closely related to graphics; even when the thread is already dead or going about something completely different.

[Ben_K]

This guy is producing amazing-looking work...

Hey, come on. i can do better photoshop than that. I could teach my nan to do better photoshop than that. I have no issues with showcasing great new work. I think its a great thing for the community and the artists. The problem is HOW Sergej does it. Now, Mr.Adam does what Sergej should do and that is to show ONLY what he is describing. IF Sergej wants to add a town, then he should say exactly which part comes from which author. Not just a list of a few people. See what Im saying?
The other thing Im starting to ask myself is why is Sergej doing all this. I mean, Ive seen Brupje and Wackis great work elsewhere*. I dont need a naff photoshop to show me how it could be... If anything, the poor combinations strongly put me off 32bpp.

*I know there are other great artists, e.g Ben Robbins etc. but I cant think of any other names at present! Doh!

Anywho, sorry to go off topic.

[Sergej_S]

The kind of a Water Tower for the version OpenTTD 32bpp v8942 also is more senior.

The author of model of a building - Juancarniglia , Argentina.

The file TAR by the size 185 Кб can be taken in archive here:
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/WaterTower_Z.tar



Sergej.

[Korenn]

This guy is producing amazing-looking work...

Hey, come on. i can do better photoshop than that. I could teach my nan to do better photoshop than that. I have no issues with showcasing great new work. I think its a great thing for the community and the artists. The problem is HOW Sergej does it. Now, Mr.Adam does what Sergej should do and that is to show ONLY what he is describing. IF Sergej wants to add a town, then he should say exactly which part comes from which author. Not just a list of a few people. See what Im saying?
The other thing Im starting to ask myself is why is Sergej doing all this. I mean, Ive seen Brupje and Wackis great work elsewhere*. I dont need a naff photoshop to show me how it could be... If anything, the poor combinations strongly put me off 32bpp.

*I know there are other great artists, e.g Ben Robbins etc. but I cant think of any other names at present! Doh!

Anywho, sorry to go off topic.

the screenshots are not photoshopped, they're taken from in-game.

but I do agree that should take more care in how he goes about his work, instead of thanking people for comments and then simply keep going the same way.

[Killer 11]

The water tower itself is good but the way you have put it there...
You made it look real bad it's out of proportions and has multiple errors everywhere.