Town name sets

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 16 May 2005 07:19

I have the latest alpha, the one from the 12th of May.

Could it be something else?

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 16 May 2005 16:10

And it still doesn't work? Which GRF file, and where did you get it?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 16 May 2005 16:12

The town name GRFs don't work, that's a known Patch issue. They're purely experimental as of yet. Not Ready for Prime Time. Patience....

Oracle · Post by **Oracle** » 16 May 2005 18:12

They do work, just not perfectly.
Have you got newtownnames on in ttdpatch.cfg?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 16 May 2005 18:20

Well, yes, that's what I meant - you do get the townnames, but they don't stay.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 16 May 2005 20:39

Am I the only person who saw this line?

G-Klav wrote:I get an error message saying that the grf file isn't designed for TTDPatch.

The town names GRF sure doesn't do that for me.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 17 May 2005 16:57

I was probably a bit unclear - it's my GRF with the Cyrillic characters that doesn't work.

My town names will work surely, but:

Oracle, your spreadsheet doesn't work for me (I'm using Open Office...).

I'll use transcripted Russian names while I (with your help

) try to find out what's wrong. It's going to take a while to convert my list with 70+ names to Hexadecimal code (I can't write it fluently...)

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 17 May 2005 17:00

And where is that GRF? If it's not working, then there's probably something wrong with the GRF. The best (only?) way to fix that is to look at the GRF.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 17 May 2005 21:08

The problem is that it's a copy & paste job, since I didn't know how to make a GRF from scratch. The .NFO file should be correct though.

Here it is.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 17 May 2005 21:40

The NFO is missing a few vital bits:
- Sprite 0 must be a 4 byte pseudo sprite and tell how many more sprites appear in the file
- An action 8 must appear somewhere before the action A that tells TTDPatch which sprites are supposed to be replaced.

*Then* you put those 687 real sprites.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 17 May 2005 23:25

DaleStan wrote:The NFO is missing a few vital bits:
- Sprite 0 must be a 4 byte pseudo sprite and tell how many more sprites appear in the file
- An action 8 must appear somewhere before the action A that tells TTDPatch which sprites are supposed to be replaced.

*Then* you put those 687 real sprites.

Thanks!

I might as well post the file with the town names. It doesn't work either, probably since I don't fully understand Action F.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 18 May 2005 00:38

Sprite 0 specifies one sprite more than actually exists. You aren't the only person to make this mistake. When counting the number of sprites, don't count sprite 0.

Your action 8 is missing its GRFID (OK, so strictly the GRFID is the first 4 bytes of "Russian Town Names v0.31 (17 May 2005)", leaving you with the name "ian Town Names v0.31 (17 May 2005)")

TTDPatch tells me:
"Error loading new graphics. File "newgrf/russian.grf" has invalid sprite #5 (code 18/14)"

To figure out what that message means, go RTFW.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 18 May 2005 13:40

Thanks a lot - now it's working!

About the Cyrillic charcters - I don't want to replace any sprites, just add new ones...

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 18 May 2005 14:37

G-Klav wrote:About the Cyrillic charcters - I don't want to replace any sprites, just add new ones...

Can't do that. You have to replace the Latin-1 characters if you want Cryllic characters.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 18 May 2005 15:10

You should probably use the regular russian codepage too, so replace the positions 160..255 with the characters from ISO-8559-5. But that's the way it works in A. Skrobov's russian character set already, so why don't you just use that? It's been posted earlier in this thread.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 18 May 2005 19:04

Patchman wrote:You should probably use the regular russian codepage too, so replace the positions 160..255 with the characters from ISO-8559-5. But that's the way it works in A. Skrobov's russian character set already, so why don't you just use that? It's been posted earlier in this thread.

Doesn't his set replace the sprites in trg1r.grf? I downloaded a set, which did that at least.
Well, if I must replace the characters I'd rather have it like it's now, transcripted.

Here's the file, it should work for all languages (I'm learning!

), but it's only tested with German (yes, I'm using the German version

).

Does anyone want to host it?

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 18 May 2005 20:13

G-Klav wrote:
Patchman wrote:You should probably use the regular russian codepage too, so replace the positions 160..255 with the characters from ISO-8559-5. But that's the way it works in A. Skrobov's russian character set already, so why don't you just use that? It's been posted earlier in this thread.
Doesn't his set replace the sprites in trg1r.grf? I downloaded a set, which did that at least.
Well, if I must replace the characters I'd rather have it like it's now, transcripted.

It does replace the characters, but that's not the only way to do it. It's easy enough to use grd2grf to convert the .exe file into a regular grf file that replaces the sprites only when active.

Using that system has the advantage that you can have the regular latin characters alongside with the cyrillic characters, but more importantly that russian people can use their regular keyboard mapping to type in the game, which is IMHO the most important point if you ever plan to have this used by russian people.

G-Klav · Post by **G-Klav** » 18 May 2005 22:05

Patchman wrote:
It does replace the characters, but that's not the only way to do it. It's easy enough to use grd2grf to convert the .exe file into a regular grf file that replaces the sprites only when active.

Using that system has the advantage that you can have the regular latin characters alongside with the cyrillic characters, but more importantly that russian people can use their regular keyboard mapping to type in the game, which is IMHO the most important point if you ever plan to have this used by russian people.

Where can I find grd2grf, then? BTW, I'll upload a corrected version of the transcripted .grf to my above post in a minute

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 19 May 2005 02:19

GRDtoGRF can be found here.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 19 May 2005 02:48

Sorry, it's "grdtogrf", and Google finds that. But anyway, to save you the work, I've run it on the ttd-rus.exe file and made a newgrf file out of it. It doesn't have a useful GRFID or anything, but it should be useful as a basis.

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