old-style bridge set [getting started]

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 18 Sep 2005 11:23

well well well, esteemed fellow forum users. welcome to the old/classic style bridge set. if you don't agree with that name, we'll have a poll later on. but first things first.

i'm interested in creating a bridge set consisting of various classical and/or traditional looking bridges. no fancy future sciencefiction bridges, no, plain, old, cool bridges. nice ones. open ones. whatever crosses your mind.

to do this, i need both coders and drawers. ofcourse, eis_os is an excellent coder, but he's a busy man, and i don't know if this project'll interest him enough to participate in. so, coders are wanted. more important in this stage are drawers, and if NorfolkSouthern's bridges (from the other topic) are available, i'd like to get my hands on those. otherwise, maybe Purno will lend a hand here and there, and i'm sure there's various other just dying to draw me a bridge. *winks*

allright, later on things as "how many bridges will there be", "what will be the official set name", "who'll write the readme", "where's the tracking table" and "do you eat pancakes" will be answered. for now, i present you with the 15 minutes i spent on trying to do my very first bridge. ofcourse, it looks like s***, but that's not the point. the point is that you'll get the idea.

let the post and reply commence!

Post by **WWTBAM** » 18 Sep 2005 11:27

looks nice and im assumeing thatll be the road version

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 18 Sep 2005 11:41

Looks very nice indeed

YouTube · Post by **Geo Ghost** » 18 Sep 2005 11:46

Looks a good design. Love to see the finished product

lifeblood · Post by **lifeblood** » 18 Sep 2005 11:59

But the ramp up to the bridge needs to be extended all the way to the tile line, there can't be a little bit of a flat part before the climb otherwise I reckon it won't look good when a train/truck passes over that tile as it will will start to climb before the ramp...

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 18 Sep 2005 12:25

Count-me in, d love to try my hand at drawing some old, nice looking bridges!

James

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 18 Sep 2005 12:32

lifeblood wrote:But the ramp up to the bridge needs to be extended all the way to the tile line, there can't be a little bit of a flat part before the climb otherwise I reckon it won't look good when a train/truck passes over that tile as it will will start to climb before the ramp...

very true indeed, but since this is only a small try, it's something we have to keep in mind later on. it was actually meant as rail bridge, but the top was quickly fixed, so that would be different if there'll be a finished version of this bridge. also, i'm thinking about a nice set-up for this bridge, with a similiar piece but spreading over 2 tiles. i'll post something to explain this later on.

[edit]
i'll try it in ASCII:

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like this:
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|    |    |         |    |    |
|    |    |         |    |    |

James: great! welcome!

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 18 Sep 2005 15:42

Looks very interesting!

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 18 Sep 2005 16:09

Great start Astath ... the thread that is ... the bridge needs work.

Keep in mind that in ttdx the bridges do double duty ... rail AND road ... they have to support both deck types ... so afaik you can't draw a bridge just for rail, etc. ... I may be wrong and would very much enjoy being corrected on this as it would give a lot more room for variety.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the artists come up with.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 18 Sep 2005 16:14

wallyweb wrote:Keep in mind that in ttdx the bridges do double duty ... rail AND road ...

Quadruple duty, actually... also monorail and maglev.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 18 Sep 2005 16:57

wally/patchman: i know, i know, t'was just a concept drawing. but the road thing isn't that much of a problem, i guess the various roadsets could be, but hey.

personally i believe it's better to first draw loads of bridges and discover there's some problems later. you see it with lots of other projects, there's loads of discussions about issues with readme's, engines, colours and whatever crosses their path, and the project never really reaches anything. so this project will do things differently, let me assure you.

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 18 Sep 2005 17:15

astath wrote:personally i believe it's better to first draw loads of bridges and discover there's some problems later. you see it with lots of other projects, there's loads of discussions about issues with readme's, engines, colours and whatever crosses their path, and the project never really reaches anything. so this project will do things differently, let me assure you.

Cool ... I like this better and better.

Silly stupid joke time: How about a new patch ... projectpersist on ?

oooh I break myself up sometimes.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 18 Sep 2005 17:23

Great work! That bridge looks really neat.

How about making the arch a bit more curvy? It looks quite straight, while the stone bridges in the eary 1900s had quite curvy arches. Especially the arch spanning over 2 tiles should be more curved.
And, higher bridges of that kind could have a really cool design...
By the way, do we really need maglev and monorail? By they time these two transportation system are introduced, bridges were made of concrete...

Otherwise, your bridge is great. Can't wait to see more of that!

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 18 Sep 2005 17:28

Snail wrote:By the way, do we really need maglev and monorail? By they time these two transportation system are introduced, bridges were made of concrete...

Unfortunately Maglev and Monorail are automatically included with any bridge as are roads and rail. It will be up to the player to use good judgement.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 18 Sep 2005 18:58

Snail wrote:Great work! That bridge looks really neat.

How about making the arch a bit more curvy? It looks quite straight, while the stone bridges in the eary 1900s had quite curvy arches. Especially the arch spanning over 2 tiles should be more curved.
And, higher bridges of that kind could have a really cool design...
By the way, do we really need maglev and monorail? By they time these two transportation system are introduced, bridges were made of concrete...

Otherwise, your bridge is great. Can't wait to see more of that!

allright, sounds like a good plan...

and if you have ány other info on older bridges, do not hesitate to post it. i mean, realism is nice, but not too much, while a detail like this cán make a set so much better.

in fact, i hereby command everyone that's even remotely interested in this set to do concept-drawing!
yes, this is not because i don't like criticism, since there's nothing wrong with that, but because that way we get loads of great ideas stacked together, which'll inspire people and make us get even móre great ideas together. it'll make it a lot easier to pick out the best concepts.

so, if you have an idea of any kind, post it with any media you think are necessary (paint, ascii, even scanned drawings, whatever!) and we'll look into it!

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 18 Sep 2005 20:29

Dear Sir,

It has come to our attention that you are in the market for some bridges. I would like to invite you to review our latest catalogue of railroad bridges attached below.

Please note that not all models are in stock but perhaps you have artists capable of reproducing them.

Prices are as quoted, f.o.b. wherever the bridge is currently located.
Terms are As Is - Where Is - Cash In Advance
All specials are valid until midnight yesterday.

Respectfully,

Mr. Wal E. Web
Honest Wally's New & Used Bridge Company

Catalogue

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 18 Sep 2005 22:05

cracked me up, ánd thanks for the link.

Post by **WWTBAM** » 19 Sep 2005 07:05

heres a try at a simplw woodern bridge and if itd used in any way i think it should be a short bridge

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Sep 2005 07:45

It really needs texture and light effects.

EDIT: It also looks somewhat thin...

Post by **WWTBAM** » 19 Sep 2005 08:01

i wasnt worrying about light and texturing, here is an update

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