General Dutch and Belgium Transport Talk

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 16 Mar 2008 22:01

Well, the metro itself is 42 meters...

trainboy2004 · Post by **trainboy2004** » 23 Mar 2008 13:19

Can they run on 3rd rail as well? Like the GVB's CAF series and the BN series.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 23 Mar 2008 21:38

Ameecher wrote:That's a big turntable...

And what you need it for if all you have is stock with cabines at both ends

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Mar 2008 21:39

Its on the Bombardier site, not the RET site, mube because this is saving space for changing tracks?

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2008 11:19

http://robvanderwoude654.fotopic.net/p49264403.html

SGMm II finished (formaly known as Citypendel)

Toni Babelony · Post by **Toni Babelony** » 28 Mar 2008 11:27

Ah great! Now finally the NS gets rid of the ugliest trains of the network! The most hated 'CityPendels'. This looks much better.

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 28 Mar 2008 12:12

I didn't even know it would stay two's.
Well i'll drive it very soon i think.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2008 15:07

The first ugly duck has arrived (On the testtrack), now we wait 15 years for the rest

http://bahnbilder.warumdenn.net/Aktuelles.html

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 28 Mar 2008 15:17

Holy hell that is ugly. Your premier train service and you get something that hideous!?

Who makes them and how fast do they go?

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2008 15:23

AnsaldoBreda and 250 Kmph in service.

Azetta · Post by **Azetta** » 28 Mar 2008 15:27

Wow...the final thing actually does look like that. I hoped the model they showed untill now was just a prototype. On the other hand, the unique shape makes it still somewhat nice.
The best thing is, these first test were planned for april 2006...

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 28 Mar 2008 15:29

In daylight.

Toni Babelony · Post by **Toni Babelony** » 28 Mar 2008 15:30

Damn thing was designed by Pininfarina... They should stick to cars and chairs in the future! Ah well, at least it's something unique again, in between the boring Nohab's and Traxx's.

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 28 Mar 2008 15:58

It would have been fine if it had a straight nose in line with the slope of the windscreen, it's that hideous growth out the front that looks glued on for a joke is silly! Not to mention the colour scheme...

Toni Babelony · Post by **Toni Babelony** » 28 Mar 2008 16:19

IIRC the bulge on the nose is to limit the air pressure difference when entering a tunnel or passing another train in a tunnel. This because a large part of the High Speed Line in the Netherlands is in a tunnel. An almost similar shape has been applied to the Japanese 700 and E4 series Shinkansen with the same reason. I could be wrong (again)

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 28 Mar 2008 16:35

Blaargh! That ugly and not even capable of reaching 300 Kilometers an hour.

And I tought the Modernized SGM-II would get an extra middle wagon?! Weird.

Does someone know when the new SGM's will be in use?

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 28 Mar 2008 16:39

The Shinkansen manage to pull off the bulge with so much more finesse. I think it is because they don't have the coupling sticking out all the time.

Visscher · Post by **Visscher** » 28 Mar 2008 16:50

Ahhhh, thats ugly, that nose is just hidious. I realy hoped to get some more ICE3's on the dutch tracks in stead of these monsters.

About SGM II, it just looks wrong this way, like it is missing something

Just saw the SLT in real life today for the first time, and i realy liked it

, doesnt look that bad

Azetta · Post by **Azetta** » 28 Mar 2008 16:51

Mr. X wrote: Does someone know when the new SGM's will be in use?

May 22 if the last test will be succesful

Niek · Post by **Niek** » 28 Mar 2008 17:00

Wow, that's pretty ugly, but it has something as well. It reminded me of the Shinkansen trains too, though this one's uglier, probably because of those tiny lights and the sticking-out coupling. What lines are they supposed to travel on? I totally missed this project, I had no idea there was anything like this planned in Holland until I saw Purno's signature and asked about it. That's what happens when you don't read Dutch newspapers anymore.
Ugly, but unique, therefore I kind of like it. Though they could have done a lot better.

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