Correct depot placing

mtwist · Post by **mtwist** » 26 Sep 2005 08:03

I have a general question about the correct placing of depots.
Until now I build my depots connected with the PBS-Block right in front of my stations. Every train has to visit the station first and when leaving it goto depot if service is needed. If there was no free path from the station to depot the train was waiting in the station.
This layout doesn't work well with the newest patch! Trains are leaving the station although there are no free paths to depot. So my trains get lost...
I suspect the problem is a two-way signal "in" the depot. Perhaps it would be better to send the trains to depot before arriving at the station. But will the pre-signal layout work then (will trains wait for a free platform at the station)?

What about other depot layouts?

Death · Post by **Death** » 26 Sep 2005 14:23

If you want the PBS or the Pre-signals works extend the way to the depot,
and place there your signals.
But I suggest you to change the place of the depot, And don't place it close to the station. You can also lead your trains to this depot by order it, so anytime the train leave the station and go to the spesific depot,
so the train dont get lost. also you can make your trains not going to the depot, only if you send them there.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Sep 2005 14:38

Death wrote:But I suggest you to change the place of the depot, And dond place it close to the station.

Strange, I always build my depots nearby stations, and they've never failed me.

Death · Post by **Death** » 26 Sep 2005 14:47

Purno wrote:Strange, I always build my depots nearby stations, and they've never failed me.

Me to. Anyway, it just a suggestion.

mtwist · Post by **mtwist** » 26 Sep 2005 15:21

I'm using "Goto Depot" in the order list. This "bug" occures only with the newest patch (alpha 60). With older versions it works proper. Sending the trains to depot before visiting the station won't work. Check the attached savegame. There is a train at Michelmünster station. After waiting at the signal for about 2 seconds it leaves the station although the next waypoint is the depot.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Sep 2005 15:32

Sorry for the o/t but mtwist, do you have any other screenies of that game? It looks awesome!

Cheers
James

Edit: yippee im tycoon now!!!

Death · Post by **Death** » 26 Sep 2005 15:38

I don't know, I tried your game and everything's fine.
Maybe it's because I'm using TTDPatch 2.0.1 alpha 61, the newest version. Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

mtwist · Post by **mtwist** » 26 Sep 2005 15:56

@Death: I'm using alpha 61...sorry

PBS is needed to reproduce the bug. Could you upload your ttdpatch.cfg? I added another screenie. The passenger train should wait in at the station. I tried an older path-version - no problems.

@james: what about downloading the savegame

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Sep 2005 16:08

mtwist, ive since noticed that!

Cheers
James

Death · Post by **Death** » 26 Sep 2005 17:12

Hmmm... you're right. the trains chose another ways.maybe it's because the PBS fixing. the new patch has fixed the PBS. I think the answer is there.

mtwist · Post by **mtwist** » 26 Sep 2005 17:19

Death wrote:Hmmm... you're right. the trains chose another ways. it's because the PBS fixing. you can find it in the http://www.ttdpatch.net/src

I thought the same...Hope for another fix in the next version. Perhaps a developer can explain the reason for this strange behavior!?

Something like "intelligent" depots would be nice: Placing a depot with CTRL pressed would make it behave like a pre-signal. So it would be possible to send trains to depots before go to station.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Sep 2005 18:14

It can't go to the depot since another train is entering it ...

Death · Post by **Death** » 26 Sep 2005 18:20

Purno wrote:It can't go to the depot since another train is entering it ...

DA! that's what we're talking about. in the old version of ttdpatch the train will wait until the enter train will go. At a61 the train won't wait and will take another way.

Death · Post by **Death** » 27 Sep 2005 13:12

mtwist, I told you to put an exit-signal (with white flag) before
the depot. Please delete your second post, it's useless and annoy to double posts which have the same idea.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 27 Sep 2005 13:17

Death wrote:
Purno wrote:It can't go to the depot since another train is entering it ...
DA! that's what we're talking about. in the old version of ttdpatch the train will wait until the enter train will go. At a61 the train won't wait and will take another way.

ah, stupid /me isn't familiar with PBS...

sorry

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