[WIP] Finnish Trainset - Alpha available NOW on BaNaNaS!

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 01 Jun 2006 18:59

Occ flat wagon - Container variant

Containers by Purno, flatcar based on original by jpl

Available 1970?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Jun 2006 19:34

Whoo, those container sprites of mine are old! Whoa, thx for digging them up

Nice work

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 01 Jun 2006 21:58

Purno, they are also getting used in the Swiss Set

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 02 Jun 2006 10:23

Right, something else for me to code...
Just remember I have many exams so you might not see any coding progress for a while.

~ Lakie

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 03 Jun 2006 09:20

jamesvassie wrote:Purno, they are also getting used in the Swiss Set

I forgot about that

What an honour

Piirka · Post by **Piirka** » 14 Jun 2006 11:57

DanMacK wrote:We're looking for info on 40's-60's stock and there's little info to be found.

I've got a booklet on freight stock used by VR in 1962.

Closed cars:
- Gb and Gd were allround goods cars (Gb is slightly longer)
- Gdl and Gdp were livestock cars (Gdl was fitted with a heating oven, so there was a chimney on the roof)
- Gdt was a car for dirtying goods like calcium oxide
- Gg was an allround car for goods (either requesting room temp. or refrigerated)
- Ggh was a car for fruit/vegetables requesting room temp.
- Ggl like Gg, but especially designed for transporting meat (fitted with meat hooks)
- Ggv was an allround car for goods requesting room temp.
- Ggy was a car for lysol (requesting room temp.?)
- Gk was a good car with sliding roofs, so it could be (un)loaded by cranes with rolls of paper, the doors were nonsliding
- Gks like Gk, but both the side walls and the roofs were sliding

Open cars:
- H was a flatbed cars with wooden sidebars
- Hd, Hdk, Hk and Hv were stake wagons with wooden or iron sidebars (Hk with metallic only)
- I was a flatbed car for logs etc., with no sidebars
- Kn was an allround hopper
- M and Ma were gravel hoppers
- Mak was a coal hopper
- Mas a macadam hopper
- O was a 4-ax. allround stake wagon with wooden sidebars
- Oa was a 4-ax. allround stake wagon with iron sidebars
- Ok, Okk and Okp were a 4-ax. allround stake wagon with wooden or iron sidebars
- Okm was a 4-ax. ore hopper
- Om was a 4-ax. ore hopper (with tippers)
- Ome was a 4-ax. ore hopper

Tankers:
- Go was either a 2 or 3-ax. oil tanker
- Goa was a 3-ax. bitumen tanker
- Gob was a 3-ax. petrol tanker
- Sd was either a 2 or 3-ax. tanker for transporting silage chemicals (AIV)
- Svs and Svsa were 2-ax. container cars, each car could carry 3 of them

I think that all the Gg (and subseries) cars had a white livery (both walls and roofs). All the closed cars had 2 axles. The cars listed above were owned by VR. There were also private cars, all the petrol companies had their own tankers.

BTW, I draw a corrected version of the dmu Dm7, with two major parts corrected. The cars had only 6 side windows. The roof had wrong colours. Also did I paint the dmu in a livery used about since mid 1970'ies. Most of the cars, but not all, were repainted before the end of usage in 1988.

Piirka

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 14 Jun 2006 13:42

Piirka, welcome aboard. Thanks for the freight info, it'll definitely help.

re: the dm7. It looks like you modified Purno's original sprites, not my revised ones. I didn't get the yellow-faced version done for this coming version, but the other ones are accurate AFAIK.

Piirka · Post by **Piirka** » 14 Jun 2006 14:23

DanMacK wrote:Piirka, welcome aboard. Thanks for the freight info, it'll definitely help.

re: the dm7. It looks like you modified Purno's original sprites, not my revised ones. I didn't get the yellow-faced version done for this coming version, but the other ones are accurate AFAIK.

Tnx. Your are right. I modified the one found in the taster in my scenario. I only afterwards found your drawing earlier in this thread. There is an overwhelming amount of stuff here and since I'm new here I have found only a little of all the interesting things.

I did some research on the Dm6/Dm7 + trailers. You've got the most of details right. However, there were a few details that I changed. The major one was the spaces between windows. You've painted them creamish, while they are white. Dm6 was introduced in 1954. But due to poor running qualities, especially on double crossing switches, Dm7 was introduced the following year. The major difference between the series are the wheels, with larger dimensions on Dm7.

In your drawing you marked the passenger trailer, when in fact it was a combined passenger and goods trailer (I named it passenger/mail). In my drawing there seem to be two different mail and goods trailers. In fact it's the same car, but the two side walls differs from each other. All the other cars have "mirrored" side walls. The armoured car was actually a car used for transporting prisoners in northern Finland. One car was rebuilt from a mail/goods car in 1965 and it was used until the 1970'ies (or maybe later?).

Piirka

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 14 Jun 2006 14:38

Well, in TTD we have to make some concessions, and a trailer cannot be passenger/mail, that's why there are separate versions for each.

We needed an armoured van for gold/valuables, and the prisoner's wagon fit the bill perfectly. TTD doesn't allow for complete realism, but we're getting as close as possible. I didn't want to do it pure white, and cream looked better IMHO.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 15 Jun 2006 16:48

Hi, this is off-topic for the thread but I'm looking for Finnish translators for TTDPatch, since the current translator won't be able to work on it to finish it in time for 2.5.

If you would like to help with the translation please email me.

[edit] I found a translator.

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 30 Jun 2006 16:37

Slowly but surely we're getting there

SR1 in red livery

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 30 Jun 2006 17:01

Looks nice, but wasn't this engine already drawn by me?

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 30 Jun 2006 17:31

Well it had to match the revised SR1 in white that I posted earlier

As always, you retain credit for the original sprite this is based off of.

Hairysteed · Post by **Hairysteed** » 30 Jun 2006 21:25

Looking better each time

Could you look into the SM4 sprites and make the nose a bit more streamlined. It seems too flat to me now.

How are the Ed/Eds coaches doing?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Jul 2006 08:29

Hmm... I believe that engine was drawn by me, right? Hmm... I could take a look at the sprites if I find them. Do you coincidentally have a link to the sprite file?

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 01 Jul 2006 16:57

Here you go

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Jul 2006 17:16

Very very quick nose-fix

Hairysteed · Post by **Hairysteed** » 02 Jul 2006 20:29

What if you squeezed the bottom windows in me middle of the wagon for a couple of extra pixels worth of room for drawing the nose? Like this:

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 03 Jul 2006 12:13

That's an option, however I wonder wether that's really necessary.

Hairysteed · Post by **Hairysteed** » 04 Jul 2006 07:14

I think it is. The nose looks like it's been chopped off with a machete.

In fact I've begun studying your drawing tutorials and with your permission I'd like to mess around with your sprites. I've already tried drawing some small, but distinctive detail to some of your Pendolino sprites. Although a lion's share of my time is spent at work I'll try to learn some drawing in the middle.

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