[WIP] ChrisTrains for Locomotion V3.0.0 [V2.1.0 Inside]

Shifty Powers · Post by **Shifty Powers** » 02 Apr 2006 15:53

Illegal_Alien wrote:I am still a little bit experimenting with it.

Let us know when you finished experimenting, so this all could be some extra information for the modders (No, not for me, I stopped completely).

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 02 Apr 2006 18:24

Come on people 50 - 50 isnt good enough,

Btw i have to say that the B version also opens a faster and better way to create steamers

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 02 Apr 2006 21:20

40 minutes to place your vote.

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 02 Apr 2006 21:37

Well I still don't think it's everything that can be gotten from the MSTS convertor. Just for a test, I took some random engine and rendered it in twice the size, then resized down in photoshop with the bicubic sharper setting and put the contrast on the alpha all the way up to get the sharp alpha edges back.

With this method, you could loose those ugly jaggies.

See pics...

Also, maybe we should check that fullbright blending again. I'm not trying to pick on your work, just trying to find a solution to get nice MSTS conversions. Somehow I still don't think the pics you posted do the source models justice.

Plastikman · Post by **Plastikman** » 02 Apr 2006 21:43

Illegal_Alien wrote:Come on people 50 - 50 isnt good enough,

Btw i have to say that the B version also opens a faster and better way to create steamers

faster maybe but watch the gear on my black gs4, i never used it until lastnight. i didnt know it looked so good.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 02 Apr 2006 22:30

strongbow wrote:Well I still don't think it's everything that can be gotten from the MSTS convertor. Just for a test, I took some random engine and rendered it in twice the size, then resized down in photoshop with the bicubic sharper setting and put the contrast on the alpha all the way up to get the sharp alpha edges back.

With this method, you could loose those ugly jaggies.

See pics...

Also, maybe we should check that fullbright blending again. I'm not trying to pick on your work, just trying to find a solution to get nice MSTS conversions. Somehow I still don't think the pics you posted do the source models justice.

Ok, let me see the DARK side, instead of the bright side.

Everybody goed OHh and Aaah and suddenly its bad? Go to hell all.

This community should drop dead imho.

Plastikman · Post by **Plastikman** » 02 Apr 2006 22:43

Illegal_Alien wrote:
Ok, let me see the DARK side, instead of the bright side.

Everybody goed OHh and Aaah and suddenly its bad? Go to hell all.

This community should drop dead imho.

i feel you your pain brother, I think the dark sides are to dark, and i think the bright sides are 2 bright.

when i tried the brightsides on the us stuff, i lost so much detail and the colors were off. we really do need a happy 1/2 way.

maybe i'll take a look at the Msts2lomo code it has been a long time since i touched VB6. but it might not be all that hard. in the mean time. i make sets for myself and decide to share it, if they like it, they use it, if they dont, they dont. if strongbow has a decent solution, hell i'll try it. i admidt my photoshop skills are not all that.....

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 03 Apr 2006 06:45

Illegal_Alien wrote:
Ok, let me see the DARK side, instead of the bright side.

Everybody goed OHh and Aaah and suddenly its bad? Go to hell all.

This community should drop dead imho.

IA, I'm trying to help if you failed to notice so. If you don't want any help, fine - go your way. But then, don't be surprised that people give you critics on how the conversions look like on page 1. We could find some way around the MSTS renderer to make them look good - get rid of the aliasing and dark sides. But unless you stop acting like a spoilt child, there is not much chance of progress. Having said that, I'm back to my own thread unless someone asks me for help.

-s

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 03 Apr 2006 17:45

I will use the LocoTSFx methode. They look a bit bad on hills, but the overal looks are good.

Hmm, seems that i did say something stupid again...

DanielB · Post by **DanielB** » 03 Apr 2006 18:26

Using the method strongbow used, they would look more nicer than they do now. It would be a big improvement for the conversion, which means you alsof get creditted for better work

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 03 Apr 2006 19:14

You people want it like this then? Well its a lot of work then

The combining would be need do be done by hand :X But resizing etc could be automated

(That combining stuff i will take care of then)

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 03 Apr 2006 19:24

Combining doesn't have to be by hand - I already mentioned that. Try asking nicely and I'll spare you looots of working hours to almost zero.

I'm available on PM.

BTW, looks a LOT better.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 03 Apr 2006 19:28

Same picture but then with the DM`90 Buffel Added

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 03 Apr 2006 19:32

A bit more of the dark side, the difference is not big now. If it's 50%, try something like 66%.

For combining two sequences, there is a great professional program called "Digital Fusion" or "Fusion 5" (new version). It's like Photoshop for image sequences. Everything that can be done in Photoshop can be done there as well, plus have it animated.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 03 Apr 2006 19:33

This is with 30% blending lower and you cant see the difference.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 03 Apr 2006 20:43

this looks really good now, IA. don't be afraid to ask others for help, and never hesitate to try out new technologies, styles or ways. after all, even with someone else's technology, you'll reap the compliments when delivering a kickass set.

good luck.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 04 Apr 2006 15:04

mDDM needed?

Now i have to wait for my MSN friend; got teh software, now i only need the know how of it

trainboy2004 · Post by **trainboy2004** » 04 Apr 2006 17:00

I like what i'm seeing but i have one small request.

[Offtopic]

Are you able to convert the railhopper to a Locomotion graphic?
(No, it's not CT but i think it's a great model)

You can find it here you need the V3 model made by Quinzedie
http://www.railsim.nl

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 04 Apr 2006 17:06

I can ask permission for it then, but then as a separate download.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 04 Apr 2006 18:07

I have to say very nice work Illegal_Alien, you could force me to reinstall Locomotion

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