New Graphics - Blender ".blend" thread (Works In Progress)

ThorRune · Post by **ThorRune** » 25 May 2005 06:45

The sad thing is, though more realistic, the new GFX engine apperantly will be a lot darker, with dark green grass versus old gfx engines light green, and such. Wont that posibilly make the game have a "sader" mood/look?

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 25 May 2005 08:30

ThorRune wrote:The sad thing is, though more realistic, the new GFX engine apperantly will be a lot darker, with dark green grass versus old gfx engines light green, and such. Wont that posibilly make the game have a "sader" mood/look?

where do you guys get these assumptions from?

NOTHING is finalised untill the sprites are shipped as packaged files. and one thing which will not be changing (for the standard GFX) is the grass colour.

however since there will be the possibility of as many climate types as anyone wants, each player can make the grass colour what ever colour they want. they can even replace it with ice.... (especially since things like buildings will have alpha for grassed areas, things like deserts can be built on without any building emposing its ground colour onto it.)

i just find it funny that a lot of opposition to the project is founded on bad information.

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ThorRune · Post by **ThorRune** » 25 May 2005 12:00

I'm not opposing the project, i love it. I got the information only from schreenshots i've seen, especially in your gallery.

Edit:

OK, not darker, but something about it is just... Gloomier

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 25 May 2005 13:51

if you can't help, at least don't disturb!

BTW, i've found no compatibility between blender and 3ds, that makes things harder! I recall Sellu used 3ds.
We should make a standard for images, colours etc, not a limited pallete, but Hub and saturation info for common colours used on vehicles (steamer black, mack truck red, ....)

Sellu · Post by **Sellu** » 25 May 2005 14:30

I think the graphics engine rules should be designed so that everyone could do addon stuff with any renderer available. Maybe there should be some calibration page how to make any software to produce uniform looking sprites compared to blender renderings.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » 25 May 2005 14:33

that would be very helpfull because i'm using anim8or for "ages" and i have no time to learn blender.

EDIT the anim8or problem is probably solved because i found a program called AniVsObj that converts anim8or files to the obj files that blenders uses. Without losing textures and colors ( if it works) the only problem is that i can't run this program because it works only on a win98 not on winXP

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 25 May 2005 23:26

ThorRune, note that that colouring is infact "brighter" than what exists now. it needs to be a few shades darker to meet the TTD colour pallet. perhaps your eyes are fooling you.

Maybe there should be some calibration page how to make any software to produce uniform looking sprites compared to blender renderings.

i agree 100%

infact blender can learn from the other artiss using other software. perhaps its not other artists trying to emulate blenders lighting, but it could be the other way around (or a mixture)

i've found no compatibility between blender and 3ds

well blender does have an importer/exporter script for 3Ds, i am not sure of the exact things it will convert, it may not do materials all that well.

but Hub and saturation info for common colours used on vehicles (steamer black, mack truck red, ....)

we shoudl definatly have a list of common ones of these.

Colours
Material types (the amount of glossiness, i.e. metal, plastic)
textures (bumpiness, things like concrete, roads, dirt...)

basicly a big list of shaders we want to be available in all software used. (and the artists are responsible for emulating these as closely as possible to each other in their respective packages and then sharing the files)

concrete
grass
desert
ashfelt
corrugated iron roof
metal.... .... ....

the list would be huge.

also a set of "common" objects, perhaps 20 various shaped and sized rocks to place on things. trees....

so that within different sets, and different areas we are not having things made that do not differ wildly.

i for one am a fan of having a set of treets (many many trees) that artists just pull into their own files, so that we don't have one type of tree design in one place and another in another place. (i.e. realistic, vs cartoon trees)

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dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 18 Jul 2005 14:50

New building rendered with ambient occlusion.

Need new camera.blend for proper screensize.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 18 Jul 2005 15:27

OMG

That looks awesome

Arsenal · Post by **Arsenal** » 18 Jul 2005 15:33

That is truly fantastic!

mic006fr · Post by **mic006fr** » 18 Jul 2005 18:30

You are very gifted !!!!

You are in art school ?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 18 Jul 2005 18:34

Too bad the shadows 'fall off' the tile. I guess the shadow won't be at the next tile, would it?

Alltaken · Post by **Alltaken** » 18 Jul 2005 19:16

we can potentially have the shadow on the next tile, although IMO it would be low priority.

great stuff.

how many tiles will it be?

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dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 18 Jul 2005 20:14

The shadows falling off is something we'll have to live with. I could set the sun higher but then the building wouldn't receive enough light.

It will take 1 tile.

In the lighting setup thread you - alltaken - said tiles will probably be 128x wide but I've rendered the tile to a width of 256px since there was also talk about an extra zoom level (which I hope will go into the game).

Included is the zipped blend file.

P.s. You might notice a small adjustment to the lighting setup discussed earlier, as I have now turned the two additional "side-suns" into hemis.

habell · Post by **habell** » 19 Jul 2005 11:23

It looks great

I think the lighting is better now IMO

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 19 Jul 2005 13:55

Killer 11 · Post by **Killer 11** » 19 Jul 2005 14:27

Cool!!!
But the trees somewhat don't fit in nicely

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 19 Jul 2005 14:43

Killer 11 wrote:Cool!!!
But the trees somewhat don't fit in nicely

Care to elaborate?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Jul 2005 14:52

Wow, this looks nice, very nice! But I think the trees should be less bright, they seem somewhat unreal to me.

dmh_mac · Post by **dmh_mac** » 19 Jul 2005 15:05

Better?

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