Michael Blunck's new graphics [http://www.ttdpatch.de/]

[blitzkrieg]

Ah, that is easy. DBSetXL is not compatible with the tropic climate.

!!!! Didn't know that . Which set(/s) should be used in tropical climate

[wallyweb]

Which set(/s) should be used in tropical climate

The American Transition Train Set and the Tropic Refurbishment Set although I don't know how well they are supported in OTTD.

[Bad Hair Day]

Both should run just fine. I use both, the former quite frequently.

[blitzkrieg]

Which set(/s) should be used in tropical climate

The American Transition Train Set and the Tropic Refurbishment Set although I don't know how well they are supported in OTTD.

Both should run just fine. I use both, the former quite frequently.

Thank you guys for helping me out!!!

[Eddi]

i have either a problem or a bug:

i loaded the following grfs:
PBI
UKRS Brick Chain
DBSetXL
DBSetXL ECS extension

what happened is that the low side wagon got added refit options lumber and gravel, and the tank wagon got added plastic and fuel oil, but there is no way to transport clay

[michael blunck]

Well, "clay" is unknown to ECS.

regards
Michael

[Eddi]

so you are telling me that you don't even consider adding it?

[Eddi]

hm, after reading through this stuff, i am more confused than before

i tried learning enough NFO to decompile the grf and fit it to my personal needs.

i stumbled upon two lines in the pikbrikw.grf defining the labels for "CLAY" and "GRVL" by action 0 feature B

also i found the cargo translation table in the dbxl_ecs.grf, which contained neither "CLAY" nor "GRVL", even though Gravel was available as refit option.

i tried putting "CLAY" and "GRVL" into the cargo translation table, but nothing changed.

then i tried the reverse attempts, i found the ID that pikbrikw.grf uses for "CLAY", and set the flags in the refit masks on that position [in the translation table, that slot was assigned to VEHI], this apparently worked, so it is what i am currently using.

this turned out to be very hacky, and not the kind of clean solution i was expecting...

but my real confusion now is, what is the cargo translation table useful for, if the contents appear to be completely ignored?

[michael blunck]

>> DBSetXL ECS extension
> Well, "clay" is unknown to ECS.
so you are telling me that you don't even consider adding it?

No. I just pointed out that "clay" is unknown to ECS, but you´re using the "ECS extension", so ...

my real confusion now is, what is the cargo translation table useful for, if the contents appear to be completely ignored?

It´s not ignored. In fact, each entry in a CTT is linking a cargo, defined in a cargo/industries .grf, with a corresponding ID in an action 3 and/or with a bit in a vehicle´s refit mask in a vehicle .grf.

regards
Michael

[George]

Michael.
Why do ECS extensions for DB set recognises machinery as goods? AI tries to make the goods route from vehicles factory to mine and his trains are waiting on the stations. Could you fix it, please?

[michael blunck]

Why do ECS extensions for DB set recognises machinery as goods? AI tries to make the goods route from vehicles factory to mine and his trains are waiting on the stations. Could you fix it, please?

That´s because of (AI) CB18 in DBXL. It can´t easily be changed by ECS extension .grf but will be working properly in v0.9.


And now to something completely different.

A class 212 light multiple purpose Diesel engine with some box vans rolling along the fields.

regards
Michael

[DaleStan]

CB18 is chained. Catch the new ECS cargos in the ECS extension GRF, and let the others fall to the DBSetXL GRF. Or redo CB18 entirely in the ECS extension.

[Dave]

A class 212 light multiple purpose Diesel engine with some box vans rolling along the fields.

Looks really, really good Michael. I'd say "keep up the great work" but it's not exactly like you need telling

Can't wait to see more!

[Ameecher]

Can't wait to see more!

If we're honest Dave, we can't wait for v0.9 to be released eh?

I'm just jesting Michael. Talk all the time you want, it's bound to be awesome. Can't wait for the bi-level coaches

[michael blunck]

Looks really, really good [...] I'm just jesting Michael.

I decided to take another approach to fix the roof and switched the engine, which looks better when in front of a train (see above). This one´s a tricky design ...

Thanks for your interest.

regards
Michael

[lobster]

I decided to take another approach to fix the roof and switched the engine, which looks better when in front of a train (see above). This one´s a tricky design ...

i really love that diesel, i even have a Märklin model of it somewhere. but isn't it an option to have it randomly face one or other way when built, like in Pikka's set? i imagine it requires something like an ID, so it's probably not possible, but even so, t'is worth thinking over.

[michael blunck]

[...] isn't it an option to have it randomly face one or other way when built, like in Pikka's set? i imagine it requires something like an ID, so it's probably not possible, but even so, t'is worth thinking over.

To have random appearance wouldn´t be a technical problem, just if I´d like it that way. OTOH, you may always switch engines with CTRL in the depot view. Unfortunately, not the first one.

regards
Michael

[PikkaBird]

Unfortunately, not the first one.

You can in OTTD (which is a bit of a pain, tbh)...

[Maedhros]

You can in OTTD (which is a bit of a pain, tbh)...

And it doesn't work properly anyway (well, for anything shorter than a standard vehicle, at least).

[PikkaBird]

It sets var C8 when flipping, so shorter vehicles can flip correctly if they are coded appropriately.