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[8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 15:24
by Red*Star
Who has read the [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project knows that we have two new variants of some nautical sprites for the OTTD 8bpp replacement project. The question is simple: Which one to put into the new graphics package?

In the first picture you see Zephyris' new docks and locks, in the second mine. Someone already mentioned to change the ground of my docks from greenish/darkgrey*) to concrete gray, which could also be an option, but currently I've got no picture of that**). If you do not like any of these choices, you may select "Neither" in the poll.
Zephyris docks & locks
Zephyris docks & locks
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Red*Star docks & locks
Red*Star docks & locks
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*) IIRC I've designed them to match the harbor train station sprites from Sanchimaru.

**) Well it *could* look something like this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... start=1261

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 15:40
by Lakie
I prefer the simplicity of Zephyris' work (the walls in general look nicer too), yours looks too busy and cluttered for my taste, I also find your locks outter walls look rather peculiar.

~ Lakie

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 15:43
by maquinista
I prefer the Red*Stars ones, but the Zephyris ones can be released as a new GRF.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 15:45
by Raumkraut
First vote! (Sorry R*S)
Red*Star wrote: *) IIRC I've designed them to match the harbor train station sprites from Sanchimaru.
This is exactly what I was getting at - you made them (the docks, at least) to match a custom GRF, rather than fit in with the style of the original, and hence with OpenGFX. :(

The locks seem to fit better but IMO are too busy, what with so many lights down the sides.

(is it me, or are the docks too short for the slope of the hill?)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 15:57
by nicfer
I don't like Red*Star's ones because they are too width. And they are not so TTD-ish. Similar thing happens with the oil rig.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 16:01
by Karloe
The Red*Star's ones, if they would have half the clutter.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 16:02
by PhilSophus
While I also like Red*Star's variant I think Zephyris' docks and locks fit better to the OpenTTD style as they aren't that eye-catching and harmonize well with the landscape. That's why I chose the first option.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 16:25
by CommanderZ
I like Red*Stars more. It looks more realistic. The southwestern wall of the lock should be improved.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 17:35
by Acerbus
I'm kinda torn. Red*Star's locks are simply awesome, and the docks would also go well with ISR. However, I think that Zephriys' style goes better with the general OpenGFX look, so I went with them, though they do look a bit too plain. I'd certainly like to have the R*S locks&docks as a NewGRF, though.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 17:38
by LordAzamath
Red*Star's are indeed nice, but I think they are also too busy (lights). So if this would be the final state, my vote would go to Zeph

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 19:08
by prissi
Red*Star's locks and zephyris' docks. No option for this though ...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 19:23
by ISA
Red*Star lock and Zephyris dock! That option isn't in poll so no vote from me :)
Maybe if Zephyris dock would wide as the tile is it looks better with ISR and other station graphics!

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 19:45
by Jupix
Torn between all Red*Star and Red*Star's locks and Zephyris' docks.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 21:31
by uzurpator
Zephiris' docks are better technically (ie better drawn), red*star's are better designwise. I guess a mutation of both would be best.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 22:05
by Red*Star
The poll result seems pretty clear. So If we do this...
maquinista wrote:I prefer the Red*Stars ones, but the Zephyris ones can be released as a new GRF.
...suggestion just the other way round, then all the people that are torn should be satisfied and also these...
PhilSophus wrote:While I also like Red*Star's variant I think Zephyris' docks and locks fit better to the OpenTTD style as they aren't that eye-catching and harmonize well with the landscape. That's why I chose the first option.
LordAzamath wrote:Red*Star's are indeed nice, but I think they are also too busy (lights). So if this would be the final state, my vote would go to Zeph
...and the other "pro-Zephyris" opinions are recognized.


I personally have no problem with using Zephyris' variant. I can't deny the point that they look much cleaner and so fit more into the OTTD world ;).


So I've set the end date for the poll to tomorrow (although I don't think that the result will change until then), then we could integrate Zephyris ones and add an additional GRF for mine ;).

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 11 Sep 2008 22:10
by Red*Star
Acerbus wrote:I'd certainly like to have the R*S locks&docks as a NewGRF, though.
Someone already coded them... *looking for*... yap, here you go: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... start=1965

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 12 Sep 2008 00:37
by athanasios
I 'd like a parameter to load either docks or locks alone or both. Locks need more work.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 12 Sep 2008 01:30
by lead@inbox
Locks should be slightly moist at the bottom, like Zephyris's one
zephyris.png
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 12 Sep 2008 05:44
by Purno
Zephrys's style is definately best, but RedStars detailling is nice. I'd be nice if both could be combined. I voted for Zephrys's ATM, but I think if RedStar adds some detailling to Zephrys's sprites, something nice is going to come out of it :)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - Locks/Docks-Poll

Posted: 12 Sep 2008 06:30
by FooBar
I like a combination of both. Because I busted my Vista install and only had a very old Linux live CD sitting around on wich I was unable to get the internet working, I can't mock something up right now.

Given that the poll results are somewhat inconclusive (about 55/45 %) I hope you can give me one or two days to get something figured out what I like best.



And since I'm coding the final grf set... :D
No, just kidding. I have an almost complete opengfxw.grf sitting around which I will not release before the [D|L]ocks problem is solved.