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Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 07:18
by eraser
Howdy all,
This idea for this site originated with the Openttd Copy & Paste need for a place for the templates.
But this might be what A LOT or people need for their files related to openttd.
So this is a stable site but let me know what you want/think.
http://www.openttdexchange.com/
-Marc
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 10:13
by LordAzamath
Well... I've got some suggestions:
Maximum file size to upload is 2MB.
I think it's useless, just make a note that for templates, make a treeless 64*64 map with scenario editor and upload it.. It'll take very less room.
Screenshot, Mandatory (jpg,gif,png):
Please encourage only png or gif. Jpg isn't a good for screenshots
Then add a note that for templates newGRFs should not be used..
On the other hand, nice site

Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 11:31
by Alberth
Could you provide an alternative to rar format for download? Format is not well integrated at a Linux system.
Sincerely,
Albert
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 11:39
by eraser
2Mb limit could easily be raised.
As for the templates its more using the copy and paste patch for the templates. As a 64x64 map isnt much use as you cant open it and paste from it. Or have i missed what your saying?
As for the format issue these are just previews i dont think it would really matter that much with png over jpeg especially with the crap php image libaries resizing the images. (but i will see what i can do)
alberth its rar and zip, The file format is basically what the user uploads rather then the sever actually doing the compression. I could make them adhear to the .zip format.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 11:58
by LordAzamath
eraser wrote:2Mb limit could easily be raised.
I was just thinking of lowering it
As for the templates its more using the copy and paste patch for the templates. As a 64x64 map isnt much use as you cant open it and paste from it. Or have i missed what your saying?
do you copy-paste something that's bgger than 64*64?
As for the format issue these are just previews i dont think it would really matter that much with png over jpeg especially with the crap php image libaries resizing the images. (but i will see what i can do)
ahh.. then it doesn't matter
alberth its rar and zip, The file format is basically what the user uploads rather then the sever actually doing the compression. I could make them adhear to the .zip format.
Just add a note that 7zip and rar formats could be less used because less experienced linux users might find it hard to open them..
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 12:03
by eraser
lordazamath

grab the Beta 6.0.03 file on the first post and have a look at the copy and paste thingo.. its pretty cool.
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25037
I was also thinking of putting the front pages from the startup competition up there. will work on it after work tomorrow.
Will also maybe limit filetypes to zip.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 12:36
by LordAzamath
eraser wrote:lordazamath

grab the Beta 6.0.03 file on the first post and have a look at the copy and paste thingo.. its pretty cool.
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25037
I was also thinking of putting the front pages from the startup competition up there. will work on it after work tomorrow.
Will also maybe limit filetypes to zip.
And why do you think I
1) Haven't tried it
2) Can't compile myself
? ^^ I'm on linux so it win binaries would be kinda useless anyways
madis
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 18:33
by jaybud4
Downloads don't seem to work for me. Running on Vista with Firefox 2.0.0.12
EDIT: I tried it on IE out of spite (I abhor IE) and it worked perfectly. Your file download system appears to be incompatible with Firefox.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 18:53
by DaleStan
jaybud4 wrote:Your file download system appears to be incompatible with Firefox.
Confirm.
And that word that starts with "helpf" is spelt with only one ell, not two.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 19:13
by jaybud4
DaleStan wrote:And that word that starts with "helpf" is spelt with only one ell, not two.
Helpful Bits.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 17 Feb 2008 22:26
by eraser
Temporarily fixed the downloading issue {it used to work in FF and works in FF on its own :S i give up}. and a few strange gfx issues.
Wasnt trying to be insulting lordazamath, i just wasnt understanding the 64*64 thingo.
Thanks for noticing the helpfull bits

changed to helpful bits.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 07:15
by Qu@rks
lordazamath wrote:Please encourage only png or gif. Jpg isn't a good for screenshots
Not true. Always depends on the game you take the screenshot from. I don't like how people in this forum are basically allergic to jpg... best example is fifa 08. PNGs are so much larger in size.
examples attached...
EDIT: BTW the difference in quality is negligible compared to the difference in size...
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 07:24
by XeryusTC
Qu@rks wrote:lordazamath wrote:Please encourage only png or gif. Jpg isn't a good for screenshots
Not true. Always depends on the game you take the screenshot from. I don't like how people in this forum are basically allergic to jpg... best example is fifa 08. PNGs are so much larger in size.
You forget that this is a forum about a 256 bit graphics game, it is way better to use png for screenshots of said game. It's all about the context baby

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Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 07:41
by FooBar
I'm not completely into the copy&paste patch, but what about no rar/zip/whatever compression at all?
I really doubt that a compressed template file is really that much smaller than the same file uncompressed.
Or: let the server handle compression. IIRC, there are several compression libraries for php/apache
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 10:54
by eraser
The zip/rar compression is for the station templates where they can be in two parts.
The entry tracks and the exit tracks. So you can choose your size of your station.
That was the main reason for the zip files.
I will write a script tonight to change all uploaded graphics and resized graphics into png (if what is being uploaded isnt) but in reality if your using the screenshot feature of openttd its png already. But i wont push it out untill im sure weather it has any big improvement over the jpeg filesizes.. not that i care about mbs.
P.S anyone have any issues with the tt-forums keep signing you out like as if its lost the cookie?
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 11:57
by FooBar
eraser wrote:But i wont push it out untill im sure weather it has any big improvement over the jpeg filesizes
As long as you save in 8bpp PNG and not 24bpp, PNG should have smaller filesizes than jpg.
eraser wrote:The zip/rar compression is for the station templates where they can be in two parts.
In that case, some container format is useful. Allowing multiple uploads per entry could also do the trick.
Using IE6, I'm having a hard time locating the form input boxes. They have the same colour as the background (white), without a border.
There also seems a problem with the display of filesizes. 0MB is returned everywhere.
Oh, and another something. I like search thingies returning everything if I don't enter a string and press the search button.
Otherwise, good job. I hope the copy&paste gets in trunk soon, so that it gets useful to the masses.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 15:50
by Qu@rks
Indeed, talking about OTTD PNG should be preferred. But as soon as it's not about OTTD (for example just a windows screenshot or whatever) jpg is much better considering the filesize. I never doubted that PNG is the best format for OTTD screenshots but almost everybody says and probably even believes that png is the king in whatever discipline. Not everybody wants to attach a OTTD screenshot though

Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 17:44
by jaybud4
Some kind of previewer so you can match the screenshot up with the actual object before uploading would be nice.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 18 Feb 2008 18:16
by DaleStan
Qu@rks wrote:Indeed, talking about OTTD PNG should be preferred. But as soon as it's not about OTTD (for example just a windows screenshot or whatever)
But a screenshot of Windows (or $OS_OF_CHOICE) is off-topic on these forums.
Re: Openttd file Exchange Just opened.
Posted: 19 Feb 2008 03:39
by athanasios
Qu@rks wrote:EDIT: BTW the difference in quality is negligible compared to the difference in size...
JPG you posted sucks. Flag looks very bad. JPG is only good for photos and the background in your capture is like a photo. Don't trick people.
